archenemy

Here's a quote from Betrand Russell (forgive me if I don't remember it exactly) "We explain the universe in mathmatical terms because we don't yet know a more profound way to do so."

I'm telling you dude, your inexplicable response to the experience (not the beauty of the pitch) is explained this way (whether you understand this on some conscious level or not): when you're climbing a wall without bolts, you feel scared, wild, independent, rugged, maybe like a pioneer, like a mountain man, like a warrior. When you clip bolts, you feel like a pussified city boy, and there is visual evidence to suggest you're not far from civilization, and that depresses you. Our session is over. Get off mny couch. Oh...and that'll be $50 please. You are telling me that you understand my subconscious better than I do? Hmm, I doubt it. You can't even figure out that I am a woman. And I am from Montana, and I have lived outside of civilization. Take your 50 bucks and buy yourself a clue.

Schweeet. I think you've earned your big A over your name.

Whatever. You missed it man. But good luck out there nonetheless.

You argument is the aesthetic one. Perhaps. But part of me is really not thinking about the beauty of the climb so much as the inexplicable viceral response to it. I am sure the appearance of the climb is an important factor, but there is more than that.

It is a completely serious reply. I am also not anti-bolt. But something about climbing a beautiful non-bolted route is simply without measure. And it's different than climbing a route that was bolted and placing pro instead of using the bolts. It is simply better for me when the route is not bolted. And I think that underneath all the well thought-out arguements (both sides have great, valid points) there lies that gut feeling and response to the climb.

Hey oly, how's that mullet coming along?

Friday at 6ish? is that too early?

I feel much better now

I've got a dictionary of foul language that comes out in everyday conversation, but I bow to the master. Fuuuunnnnnyyyy why is that so amusing? eddie murphy was funny for the same reason. dunno why that makes us laugh...

Where? Where?

It's always fun reading the well thought out arguements against bolting. They sound very logical and scientific. They are built up carefully and unwrapped just right. Am I the only one who just likes climbing a route that hasn't been bolted just because it seems to feel better? Tell me someone else out there knows what I mean.

When I was a newbie, I wondered about Jesus too. I know better now.

Maybe he died doing what he loved best

No, that's a first date.

Isn't consorting with criminals and conspiring to commit a crime breaking the law?

nails are not an organ. skin is. it doesn't matter what "your" definition is, we don't get to rewrite the dictionary at will. Semantics are not a game, they are the meanings of words. that said; I would venture a guess that most people would tend to agree that we should not be exempt from the generally agreed upon conventions that most decent countries are expected to follow. Those conventions explicitly exclude torture as a reasonable way to treat a POW. On this topic, John McCain is the man.

And Archenemy is a guy

I came across this list of things that suck and had to laugh: Calling someone 6+ times within an hour Telling someone you love them on a 2nd date Telling someone you can't see them because they don't share your love of holiday music in the mall Trying to meet guys by showing your breasts in a bar Thinking that your period is a perfectly acceptable form of birth control on a first date(uuuuh!!!) Calling someone 17 times in 2 days while they're on vacation and leaving progressively more disturbing messages (ala swingers but worse)after you just met this person Having two and a half drinks and then "blacking out" for the night on a date(very convenient trick for the insane...) Bringing a bottle of lube on a first date Telling someone that you've never done this before while knowing perfectly well that they know you carry lube in your purse Inspiring the sweetest dog in the world to hate pee on your face in the middle of the night(dogs can sense evil) Being ok with the fact that a dog just dumped a gallon of pee on your face and then actually appologise to the dog Giving someones friend a blowjob in a club rockstar style while you were trying to hook up that someone(see telling you love someone on a 2nd date, and this is not the same chick) who was home sick Giving autographs outside the club for your blowjob performance that night

inagaddadavida

Gimme your address and I'll send you a bunch of climbing mags and some paperbacks.

nice filson

I do say

Hey lookie here, a bolting debate!