John Frieh

Finger of fate... better quality climb than Outer Space.

Moderators! We need an Idaho section! Climbing or Rock and Ice did recent article on reopening. A new guide book is in circulation which covers many of your questions. PM wazzumountaineer; he is the Idaho hook up. And if you have time, go into the sawtooths (elephant's perch, finger of fate), you won't regret it.

dead animals = mexican bud Hippy.

Good points. Remember: more flexible around the ankle = more rock climbing friendly

That or they would have a link to this thread... Madvillain! My pick for album of the year (so far)... waiting for the new RJD2...

All I'm saying is conversation like this will not improve your current situation. Pay the cover charge or go find another bar... I gotta ask: why do you place fault with the woman?

Turd alert. Somebody needs to flush this thread.

If you fear public reprimand from the site (I know I do); pm me and I promise not to reveal it. I'll do my best to offer some rec's for you. Since your current pair is larger; you might be looking at a new pair. J

Those actually climb alright. Are they your street size or significantly bigger? What do you hope to climb (if it's any of my business)?

New liner is trimmer; however my friend just got them and hasn't taken them out in truly cold conditions. He had the older liner version and never had a problem with cold feet. CBS: I hope your friend is right.

Any girth pics?

How many days do you anticipate for your trip? If its 2-3 days, lower elevation, and you're diligent about keeping them dry, leather is always better. What are you wearing right now? Are they upsized? Have you tried moderate rock in them?

I got the very first orange one he ever made back in 2001ish... no zipper, epic fabric... I love it. I'm ordering a double wide from him next... snuggle time!

It’s been awhile since I've done it, but when I worked at a gear shop I did liner and/or shell modifications. The bottom line is it costs a lot of money (especially if it turns out the modification didn't work and you have to buy new boots… no shop will guarantee you a new pair if they mods don’t work) and the improvements aren't stellar. With the number of options on the market today (compared to just a few years ago), one doesn't have to behave like Cinderella's step sister to get a pair of boots to work. Twight’s argument for downsizing is primarily to get the boot to climb rock better. If you don’t plan on 5th class terrain in your plastics it’s a non issue. However if you do, it’s something to consider. My advice would be to not downsize, but instead buy a pair of boots in your street size (for some reason people still think they should upsize boots to accommodate more socks… not always a good idea) that are lower profile/trimmer (i.e. the alphas). Trying on different boots you will see some are much bulky than others. Once you do find a pair; climb in them. Take your boots to the gym at least once a week; climb with a pack on; etc. etc. As far as the alphas go; they do climb rock better, but aren’t as warm as other plastics on the market (some actually compare their warmth to an insulated leather). This will always be the case with any boot: trim it down for rock and it won’t be as warm. Good boot if it fits. Are you in the market for plastics Greg?

Mtn Hardwear was recently purchased by Columbia so keep an eye on production changes/locations. So far it appears the ownership change hasn’t affected quality, but something to be concerned about is what if down the road you need something replaced due to warranty issues and all they can offer you is bunk. Just a thought. I think people on this page could give you a more definitive answer if you specify what you will be using these items for: a lightweight tent for backpacking is one thing; a lightweight tent for climbing is another. If it is climbing, check out: Sleeping bag: Nunatak (my 20 deg. bag weighs 25 oz.; they custom fit them to you) Tent: Bibler (worth every penny)

I also posted this in the newbie thread, but feel it is also applicable here. As I see threads all time in this forum asking what is the best way to gain or broaden climbing experience and knowledge; I thought I’d point out the fact that two excellent opportunities are coming up this week in which it would be a great time to meet new potential climbing partners: the cc.om picnic and the Smith Rock spring thing. I attended my first cc event over the weekend and found everyone very friendly and personable to all who attended (some of the attendees don’t post on the page and were still welcomed). Information for both events appears in the events forum. A word to the wise: bringing extra food and/or beverage is a great way to make friends. See you there!

As I see threads all time in this forum asking what is the best way to gain or broaden climbing experience and knowledge; I thought I’d point out the fact that two excellent opportunities are coming up this week in which it would be a great time to meet new potential climbing partners: the cc.om picnic and the Smith Rock spring thing. I attended my first cc event over the weekend and found everyone very friendly and personable to all who attended (some of the attendees don’t post on the page and were still welcomed). Information for both events appears in the events forum. A word to the wise: bringing extra food and/or beverage is a great way to make friends. See you there!

Ask her about chocolate... did I mention I make a great climbing partner?

NOLSe is the name’ I’m ahead of my game Still’ puffing my leafs’ still with the beats Still not loving police ’Uh huh’ Still rock my khakis with a cuff and a crease Still got love for the streets’ repping 213 Still the beat bangs’ still doing my thang Since I left’ ain’t too much changed’ still I’m representing for them gangstas all across the world Still hitting them corners in them low low’s girl Still taking my time to perfect the beat And I still got love for the streets’ it’s the N'O'L'S'E 12 hours... 4 tickets (3 speeding and 1 no proof of insurance). I do believe this is a new personal best... In other news I have a large amount of lead I no longer have a need for... if anyone is interested pm me...

That one reminds me of NOLSe - he can't stop grinning when he gets his coffee! Thanks boss.

You forget Pandora is riding with me...

Keg is in my possession; someone please bring a tap (see TG's post for specifics).

Smith? Dried mud with bolts in it?

IF we find a tap...

It should also be pointed out that we NEED a tap for the keg. The TG keg will arrive tonight...