John Frieh

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were new here. You know... I am capable of making windshirt and thermos recommendations!

Man the search engine on this website sure is great! One can search old threads for previous discussions on just about anything! I love how people can make reqs without knowing what syudla plans on climbing with it.

I'm surprised with your long blond hair and Fred's eyesight he didn't mistake you for a cute girl.

In my limited experience to date you will get 3 options when you appear (more like 2 but the judge will say 3). A fourth one that judges usually don't mention but is your legal right is no contest. I don't recommend unless you plan on running for a public office. Great way to piss off the judge 1) Not guilty. Basically if you are planning on fighting it this is your only option. I'm assuming that when you say you are fighting it you mean you are going to attempt to be found not guilty of speeding and not have the infraction appear on your record... correct? If so the judge will set a second court date in which you and the cop will come back and tell your side of the story. Unless you have concrete evidence the judge will likely make you reappear a second time to fight the case which means another climbing trip but more lost work time 2) Guilty. You were fully aware you weren't observing the posted speed limit. 3) Guilty but with an excuse. Most people end up going with this one. This is where you admit fault but you feel your 5 miles over is justified or explainable. I believe this is where your current list of excuses would apply. Those are good but the best one I have ever seen in action is pregnant women or women with young children <1.5 years rant about how there is no way they would risk the life of their child. I've seen the biggest discounts given here. As you can't claim pregnant or young child you best bet IMO is to plead guilty and use the words "their is no justification for my speeding your honor... it was wrong and I should have been more aware of my rate of travel and the posted speed limit... I am at fault". Often judges like to use the fine as a way of "teaching you your lesson"... if it appears you have already learned it they are more likely to reduce it. Then again if they are using tickets as a form of revenue for the city you're ed. Sorry! If your record is fairly clean (no tickets in the past few years) you can additionally say "this was a lapse in judgement and uncharacteristic of your normal driving behavior as your record clearly indicates". And judges can see your entire driving record (not just 35 months like insurance companies can) so don't try and say "this is my first ticket" when you it is actually your first ticket in 4 years. Something a lot of people don't know is the officer gets to write notes of what happened on the ticket which the judge reads... basically the cop summarizes what you told the officer as well as your behavior. If your story changes between the citing and the appearance the judge will notice and likely not believe you. What else? If you are in a hurry show up super early and you will be the first to be called. If you plan on pleading guilty this works but if you plan on using some excuse show up a little before so that others are called before you... you can get a feel for what kind of judge they are and how they react to bullshit excuses... and you'll hear some whoppers.... just don't laugh out loud when you hear them.... unless the judge laughs first. As far as courtroom appearance... don't show up in your climbing clothes... press your slacks and comb your hair. Stand up when they come in and when you are talking to them and always use yes and no your honor. And a jedi mind trick might help things too

Oly: are you polling for potential excuses to get the ticket reduced or thrown out?

Yeah I just caught that too need more coffee

Generally that is the case but I'm willing to bet the cop made a special exception just for Oly because he drives that hippie esq machine... probably was hoping for a bust

STFU n00b... you have NO idea how worse it could get Did you tell her you were late to a sport date in hopes of getting out it?

I spur. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/572673/an/0/page/0/gonew/1#UNREAD

Good thing you guys had your helmets on. Nice pics

What's your favorite that you check before heading north to the best climbing in WA? Links please...

Do yer ballz ache for a hasty return? How about Astro E or Baron Spire? I'll drive!

D00d your spelling gets worse by the day... or is that a noise?

That's what I heard too... Darstog and I are planning on Broughton's Sat if peeps are interested... Rocky Butte today 3 pm: rock if dry, drytool if wet

Just kidding around! You are totally right d00d! Too much sun cooks the brain cells or something

And oh yeah... though 118 is insane by NW standards don't forget PHX doesn't have humidity so 118 feels like high 90s here

I'll say this in AZ defense... Flagstaff/Sedona/N AZ is an awesome place... as it is 7K the heat thing doesn't really factor in. Great skiing too! WRT to Phoenix... though in many ways it is my idea of suburban hell... photo radar on the freeway! , hot as hell, sprawl, etc... Phoenix by far and away has thee highest concentration of beautiful, attractive (some might use the word "hott" ) women I have ever been... but then again I'm not exactly the world traveler so who knows... And related to this since "so many options abound" PHX girls aren't stuck up either... you can approach basically any one of them and not get the "what the fuck do you want!?!?" look that so many PNW chicks are happy to blast you with... Flame suit on!

Call me: 503.758.5772 Anybody keen on climbing this weekend around town (broughton, rocky, etc) should do the same

What time?