olyclimber

I've got two extra tickets to the baseball game tomorrow. They changed the game time from 7:05pm to 12:35pm, so small chance that some of you can go. Seats are Section 108 Row 26...the old "Area 51" section. I'm going with my son, but I have two extra seats I'll give away provided you don't smell too bad.

RTFM ROTFLOL!

I saw some sweet aluminum strap on crampons at Promountainsports that had steel front points on them....seem like a pretty good way to go.

If it weren't for my arm I would challenge you all to a pushup contest. Maybe we can have a staring contest instead?

COOL. DID YOU GUYS PRACTICE MOUTH TO MOUTH?

HAHAHAHHAAHAHAH!!!!! GOOD ONE DRU!

EERRRYYONE STFU!!!!!

JUST LOGGING ON THE INTERNET AND SAW THIS THREAD YOU LOSERS. YOUR MOM SAYS HI!

pssffftt!!! thats a miniature alpaca:

sweet mud skiis!

A nice hint is which Forum the TR was located in.

Extreme Irony annoys the hell out of me

Its looking like WeekendClimber and Matt will be going up in a seperate car so they can leave a little earlier...so I have room for a couple of peeps if you can stay a little later and party with Mr. Mo.

HOLY SHIT!!!! THAT IS MY CAT!!!!!

Do you have a cooler to store beer/meat in?

I'm in. Hopefully the people coming up in the car with me are able to hang out too ...

maybe my "position" is inconsistent with your point of view, but not with my own. maybe you think you know what my point of view is, but if you have surmised anything then you must have a pretty simple, black or white view about things. i never brought up nationalized health care...i was just talking about an ethical situation which relates to the guidance one might have to give to a corporation. now excuse me, i have to go to home and dust my Lenin and Hillary posters.

And heck, its even possible to run a profitable company honestly! I'm not sure why these companies are surrounded with controversy, but they are. What if the public company wants too much and the public can't afford it? But of course...how much is your life worth? Shouldn't we be handing them our first born, and signing over the deed to the house? No one wants to bargain on the operating table with the doctor for how much you're going to pay for the life saving operation. I guess I'm just not sold on the idea the corporations can be entirely self regulating. The recent news with the FDA and tainted peanut butter makes me even more skeptical. I need my Nanny State! http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/politics/4738421.html

Why do you believe this film is not just propaganda? But if the propaganda is really, really effective...he might just be right.

So what do you think about when a corporation possesses the technology to save millions and millions of lives...yet most of those millions and million can't afford to buy that product. Is that just a case of natural selection (i.e. those who manage to find the means to purchase the cure are permitted to live)? That is an aside from the whole idea that the corporation should be awarded monetarily for their innovation.

I don't find the "farmers are dumb and don't know how to evaluate crop strains or make informed judgments concerning how to operate their businesses as well as I do" argument much more persuasive than the "gun to the head" argument. As far as altruism is concerned, whether a company develops a technology out of avarice, greed, malice, or any other motive is considerably less important than the objective benefits of the said technology or innovation. If you had an otherwise incurable disease and someone developed a drug for the sole reason that they wanted to make money, would you refuse it on principle? I know a few doctors that do lifesaving work, yet were at least partly attracted to the field because of the money. Are their contributions to society less valuable as a result of their motivations for entering into the field? Believe it or not, I actually don't have anything against corporations or individuals who wish to make money. I only despise those that do so using deceit or harmful practices. I also don't wear patchouli. I hate the smell of that crap.

The dirty unamerican hippie commies have made a website railing about the Evils of the Corporation. http://www.monsantowatch.org/ Here is a list of no-nothing hippies with mail order degrees in genetics: http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/board_of_a.cfm http://www.centerforfoodsafety.org/staff_bios.cfm looks to be a bunch of lawyers and liberal arts majors

lets see...the choice is use the high yield genetically modified crop with "special benefits" -or- use the non-modified crop with much lower yields. its a simple equation. yes...the gun is essentially at their heads...use the modified crop or go out of business/lose the farm. Of course, I'm not a crop geneticist, so I'm totally making this up, might not be true. its funny Jay...your arguments are strikingly similar to the ones made in "Thank You for Smoking". Have you seen it? Have you considered a career working for Big Tobacco? Haven't you learned that Corporations are Evil?

Its a part of the package...along with the plant reproduction modifications they do get tangible benefits and are lured down the road of genetically modified (and corporately controlled) crops. obviously people won't by a product unless it purports to have a tangible benefit, which it might...and perhaps along with a few hidden "benefits" (i.e. benefits for Monsanto). at any rate...the point was that genetic modification isn't always done in "our best interest"...its done in the interest of the corporation. historically there are many problems with the product and business practices of these companies, including Monsanto, so why should we trust them now? at anyrate, I'm not arguing for unfounded or nonfactual slamming of frankenfood companies. there is enough historical evidence to validate maintaining a healthy skepticism about the business practices of these companies. and as for the farmers that bought the seed for the "tangible benefits"...well as foolish as it makes them seem for buying the product in the first place, it seems that some of them think they have a court case against Monsanto. who knows how that will turn out.