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Can't say I've looked forward to spending money as much as this before. think of how expensive it would be to build a climbing wall this cool.

Anyone?

Its vertical world, right?

then there is people who climbed hard and put up routes of both disciplines, i doubt they had a separate grade for each

Peter, what can you tell me of the Private Idaho and immediate area? Are those hidden classics or is that area not been cleaned for other reasons? There is a "Yosemite" climb there?

OH BOY! PETER HAS SOMETHING UP HIS SLEEVE!!!!!1

nice!

old dudes playing baseball? that is BORING. not as fun as seeing ulee rip a line drive by some kids head. though let me know if you're going to be trying out Peter. I'll have to come check out a game.

it seems your are right if you leave the netting at home and just go with the fly and ground cover. http://cascadedesigns.com/msr/tents/fast-and-light-tents/carbon-reflex-2/product = 2 lbs 12 oz the whole tent or only 2 lbs with just the fly and ground cover. this tent does appear to be slightly bigger than the Firstlight. Firstlight = 2 lbs 11 oz these wieghts are from the manufacturer specs, not sure how accurate they are. I have a firstlight, and have to make sure my tent mate is not over 6 foot or they don't really fit comfortably. i've seam sealed it and been in the rain and snow with it and it was just enough to be comfortable. i haven't been in a deluge with it though.

So blow jobs are the downfall of climbing. Interesting theory.

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that sucks. maybe you can play it into a slight remodel of the kitchen or something?

isn't the rating associated with the difficulty rather than how you protect? i guess if you trust the placements (bolts) you might climb harder than a marginally placed cam. within trad there is the split between crack and face climbing...is there a ratings difference there at one crag with both (say Index)?

Quite frankly I'd have to agree that the search function is pretty bad on this board. It can be hard to get *any* results with it if you're casting a wider net. Unfortunately that is an underpinning of the software we use currently and quite possibly also related the the CPU/disk we're on. I'd agree that for "power searchs" google is probably a better choice for the site right now. We'll be making some decisions about the board software at some point, and that is going to be a factor.

I'm just glad we can have these frank, open, and spray free conversations without a bunch of jackassery. Thanks for your thoughts on the site. I'm glad its working out ok most of the time for you guys.

I don't get it. Whats that a picture of?

well the problem may just be that while nothing is getting out, nothing is getting in either. maybe some laxatives would help?

Kev, are you sure your mind is not an impenetrable fortress? Your ability to take abuse is quite legendary!

yes. i can't remember who though.

another incident: http://www.komonews.com/news/national/47940437.html