olyclimber

Let's get down to brass tacks here. The notion of the 'self' and the 'other' are subjective experiences. Your phenomenology are essentially a study of emotions. Ethical contructs, while real to the 'self', are emotional by nature and attached to the 'other' in the course of your phenomenlogical experience . Therefore, right and wrong both exist and do not exist, because each of us carry around our own contructs of reality. This is because your 'other' is not the 'self' of the entities that may make up the psyche of your 'other', which may or may not even exist. On the other hand, the notion of 'spray' is in fact real, and is not a shadow in the cave.

I think this horse is dead. Lets move on to a topic that's easier to talk about. Peace in the Middle East: What are your thoughts? Who is right? Palestine or Isreal?

Oh ya....and....

I know nobody wants to talk about a solution. It's more fun to talk about the problem...and to pretend like the world's going to suddenly change to support your ideal. Let's face, man has been raping the land some time...bolts are pretty small in the grand scheme (especially the ones that are colored the same as the rocks). Whether you like "sport" climbing or not, the bolts aren't going away. The solution is to get support for officially deginating areas as 'bolt' or 'no bolt'. Who is going to step up and expend the huge amount of energy to get something like this in place?

Say good bye to all your free time and money.

Trask writes the songs that make the whole world sing....

You mean there is something besides Miss Ringworm in this thread?

Trask, I can see from this last post that you're very insecure. Keep up the good work!!! Bring on the spray...

Battlecage time! This is all being logged into my database. I know what you're doing trask!

This is so lame

OK, so this 'spying of what people are saying online thing' is cool. I can sit around all day and just checkout what JayB, AlpineK, and Lambone are doing at 11:45 on Friday night. I have my next 3 months planned!

Hey, (I hate it when I closet chest beat)....but I pile my cairns about twice as high as this.

Aaaaahh..... Molly Ringworm. This thread is my favorite.

I can't read that much. Can someone summarize this post in a few sentences for me?

I have no idea. It's some big strip mining machine in Kansas.

Brutus wants to modify your rocks.

Are you serious?

Rather than painting it as a black and white, all or nothing argument that seems to be going on here, it seems to me that the "bolt or no bolt" is really a land use issue. For instance, I love mountain biking...and I love some of our national parks, but I can't ride my mountain bike on the trails in our parks. There is, however, plenty of great riding in land that is outside of the parks. I'm fine with this. Same with bolting: If the goal is to keep an beautiful area pristine and wild, I sure as heck don't want to see a bolt ladder going up the side of some rock face... I have no problem with a trad climber climbing it with removalable/not destructive aid. On the other hand, I don't see any problem with bolts in areas that are not designated to remain pristine and are for recreational use. Of course, if you love a non-protected climbing area that is in risk of getting bolted up, you better work on getting it officially designated to save it rather than starting a war with people who want to bolt it.

Yes. Check out this thread.

I have a few. They're pretty heavy. I won't buy any more for this reason.

Some dry cleaners have a special treatment available. A few phone calls should yield some good info. PS...I'll take your cat. I LOVE cats.......in gravy. I wouldn't recommend dining on this particular cat. I think it has a bloodline relation to a pole cat or some other scented feline. There is the strange story of how its mother went missing for a few months up in Bellingham, and then showed up in my closet one day having kittens...and this one picked me out. Anyway, my son seems to like it, so unfortunately for all of you...this cat giveaway business is all in jest.

No, of course not. That cat is not available that this time. I swear it isn't the same cat.

When someone discovers the majick method for removing the scent of cat pee from a pack, please PM me or post. Also, if someone needs a cat, let me know.