Hehehe. Anyone remember that thread?
Back on topic. My Ice Floe gloves were bought on Friday. I climbed six pitches of ice on them over the weekend. One rappel. And one of the fingers blew a seam. I'd sew it back together, but unlike the BD drytools, they have a separate liner, so I can't get at the seam. They're going back.
My other dislike of the glove is that all the padding and stuff makes them very difficult to dry.
In conclusion, Cloudveil couldn't be farther from their roots, and are only intersted in making a buck rather than making quality gear.
Well, maybe not, but these gloves do seem to have weak seams (no pun intended).