I got me some stylin' blue and yellow windpants that I sewed myself. Along with the blue and yellow jacket I look like a freakin' Euro! I really like the windshell though. It is very light, so I can wear them as my only layer as protection from mosquitos in the summer. They are nearly windproof, but since they are so thin I have to wear long underwear beneath them unless it is very warm. Also, the nylon that I made them out of is pathetic, very slippery, very water-absorbent, and an after-market DWR won't work on it for some reason. I wish I could buy some EPIC, but Nextec won't sell it to individuals. Oh well.