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This post said something different for about 5 minutes this morning before a moderator (or Trask) changed it. I think anyone else would have been banned for what was posted previously. trask=gappertimmy? The dark side?

Life on cc.com without Trask?????????????????? How boring, I may as turn in my password and lurk on teletips.com for fear of offending someone.

Nice trip report trask!

Maybe the reason more people don't post is because there is often so little real talk about climbing, or trip reports. Good posts go so rapidly to Spray, it makes your head spin.

I can't understand your posts. Get a new keyboard!

OK, I get it now. We need an additional forum, maybe titled "miss manners", for thin skinned people like marylou where bad words are banned!

I have had the dubious life of trying to keep up with my dad. When I tell him about a climb, he says yah, he did it too, only in mid winter. He is 79 years old, works out 6 days a week, and for the last 30 years has spent the whole month of August climbing in the bavarian alps in Germany. Technical stuff still.

I hike with an old fart who has climbed with Warren Harding, Royal Robbins, Tom Hornbein, and Willy Unsoled. Kind of risky posting so close to a Cat!

Eat Salmon, The other Pink meat!

Bring your skating skiis too, for a morning warm-up. The best groomed cross country ski trails I've found are there. The tracks are very wide, room for trad on both sides and lots of skating room in the middle. There are three increasingly longer loop trails, rolling hills, and you can really move. Then either ride the lifts later in the day, or skin up and climb up into the Elkhorns. Base elevation of the ski area and cc ski area is 7000'.

I ran cross country in high school in the 60's, and I still run. But not without problems now and then. I realize I have to have a regular running program if I want to go into the mountains. If I stop running for a couple weeks, I go downhill fast. I have found it is more important to run regularly, than to have a good workout. As long as I only take one day off between runs, I can work out as little as 20 minutes and keep my conditioning.

I lived in Rawlins for year, and went to the Snowy range near Laramie a lot. The wildlife is incredible. There is lots of public land to wander and camp on without hassle. But the winter goes on forever, so if you like the outdoors, you will spend less time in it than in Washington.

It sounds like this area is next to the Iron Horse trail, managed by State Parks. Have you tried contacting them? These kinds of situations are often handled best by those guys. The manager could be contacted at Lake Sammamish, since Ollalie state park is just a satellite of that. Many of the rangers are fully trained and armed, and routine patrolling may scare the clouters away.

Has anyone determined the LE jurisdiciton for this parking area? Is it county, state-wsp, state parks, DOT, DNR? It would be helpful to talk with those specifically responsible for parking security if that can be determined. Many of those agencies have cameras that can be installed and that should be pursued. Is this a fee parking area? Oh, and while were at it,

I was just thinking about that too. I came in for a late lunch, checked my computer for important email and cc.com spray, and saw three pages of new spray. Doesn't anybody have anything to do at work anymore????????????????????????????????

Just saw Sleepless in Seattle. I know, it has been out for years. Should have never watched it.

Well said Tele_nut

fred who?? never heard of him.

In rescue training we were taught to support an injured climber horizontally while he was still hanging on the rope. From this postion, a stokes litter could be lowered or raised to the injured party, and moved into place right underneath him. We would set up several prussiks and slings, and lay the climber out flat, supporting the ankles, knees, back, and head. The waist was already supported by the harness. If you or someone were going to be hanging for some time, this would allow several support points, and probably great blood circulation, eliminating the "suspension trauma" problem.

Nice to see the military is still firmly planted in the 16th century!

Add some high mountain traverses of the Olympics. Everyone knows that is the best feature of the Olys.