Bill_Simpkins

You can use other fuel canisters ( they don't reccommend of course). My friend uses other fuel canisters and they work just fine.

AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!

Kerry IS a climber.

No. Just babies and soccer moms. We ran up the trail after cruizin Lady Peak.

Cheam, Sahale, Liberty Bell - Beckey Route, Rainier-Emmons (late season), APEX (?) - Mt. Erie

I have a friend who NEVER carries more than a liter of water. How much water does everyone USUALLY leave the car with for alpine or long hikes? (just on average, I know that situations can call for more or less). I average about 2 liters.

West Ridge North Twin High Mountain Woody Eldorado - walkup route Fatty Bolger - Croft route Needle Peak - class 3 side Almost make list: Givlers, Shasta-Clear Creek, Exasperator, Mt. Watson, Pixie Corner, Banana Peel

Check PM's

Wheres the bathroom? Wheres the bathroom? Maybe I could just duck behind this tire and ..

Please keep the spray somewhere else.

oops sorry. Got it.

sold! To the man in the white hat! $25.00

Here are some tricks that would work with any gear. -Role up TP off the roll. -Cut off extra strapping and stuff from pack (as tlinn stated) -rack gear on tied webbing you can use for rap sling. -Fit shovel head to ice axe shaft (removable) -Make cordellete with stuff you can cut up for rap slings. -share nut tool. -belay and rappell with munter hitch or army wraps on biner(rapping only) and leave ATC at home (if however doing lots of belay/raps, the 2 ozs of the ATC can save a lot of twisting) -use ice axe for nut tool, us nut tool for self arresting (depends of course on terrain) -remove the front half of strap-on crampons and secure the front half with really thin webbing. -Cut sleeping pad down to 1/2-3/4 lengths and use your pack and/or rope for feet or head. (I even do this on snow) -girth hitch slings to pro to save on biners. -learn knots and safe methods for using less biners at belay stations. -Use a bowine on a bite instead of a sling for anchoring to trees.

Check out the Jet Boil 15oz with pot. I love this thing! the fuel and stove fits in pot. Boils fast and takes up little room. No lighter needed.

This is good stuff people! Yes the mental aspect is important. I just got a Granite Gear Virga. 1 pound 5 oz and carries like a dream when packed right. If you pack all frameless packs with a 3/4 length sleeping pad rolled up on the inside and pack everything in that, you'll get good support and less stuff on the outside. I usually just put my sleeping bag inside my Marmot Alpine light bivy (1 pound) and cram it in the bottom. This method also works well with the Go-Lite Gust.

This thread is for packing light only! Techniques, tips, tricks, multifunctions, gear, questions and please NO SPRAY! This is not for discussion on whether light and fast is ok or not. This is for those who want to do it or already do it that are just looking to hone it in more or to help others do it. For those who DO obsess about weight and care about it. Why? Our packs are always too heavy! We could start by posting how we pack, and what for, with weights and techniques and then go from there. Also welcome are personal reviews and experiences with light gear. My goal with this thread is so that someone that wants to pack lighter can come to this thread and get ideas. Attaching Excel Spreadsheets may be helpful. Again, please no spray and keep debating to a minimum to keep useful information easy to get. Thanks.

The climbing is ok when its dry. The cobblestone rock is pretty cool. I like how the wall is mossy and wet except for the holds. Nice bulge pull-overs. The other walls are cool too except for the falls loof scary. Up the road a hundred yards or so you can hike up the talus and head leftish. There are some nice clean, but short sport routes of there also. The place is definatly worth a visit or two.

Update: The #0,0.5, and #2-4 tech friends have sold. Still on bidding is Slothrop w/ #1.5 tech friend for $20. The #1 Forged Friend I think is going to Billygoat. The #1 tech friend and 1.25 forged friend are still up for grabs.

Instead of a holiday, I think it would be nice if the employers gave an hour or two time off to vote. Voluntary.

Good Story ...

Just want to clarify that they have been placed a few times and have some scratches from the placements and being racked and packed, but pretty much like new.

Bush got schooled.

Kerry used to be a prosecuter, and it showed. Bush was on the defensive the whole time.

gotcha slothrop. I won't forget.