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OK, but my chalkbag is seafoam green and my shoes are prussian blue, what colour should my dust mask be? it's not the colour of the dust mask that matters, it's the size of the dust mask...

i'll second playground point area. everything from some easy 5.4 slab to a really fun 5.8+ Most of it is eas to TR. check the new guide. We had a great afternoon there a few weeks back.

just a point way back to the earlier portion of this thread. waldorf schools are great...if you can actually find one that follows the theory and implements. a lot them turn out to be the same as every other private school out there. people learn differently. this is well known fact. some people learn better by listening, others learn better by seeing, others by doing. i can listen to a lecture and get nothing.if the prof writes the material down or gives me a hand out then i do much better. i do even better if i read the material and take notes or have an experiment to do. activities in school like shop and art are valuable skills. i'm horrified by how little gym and music my son gets at school. it's a different type of talent to excel in these areas. experential learning can apply to all subjects. these type of classes foster less academic skills but important skills none the less. amazing how many problem skills and deductive reasoning exercises can be had in a shop class or home ec. all of that said there is a difference between academic talent and other more practical talents. some people have both some people have neither. experientially learning my ass. just figure out how you can learn the skill. the experientially learning technique for reading is reading. you learn to read by doing it. the experiential technique for math is doing math problems.

i think it's great that people push the limits of the sport. if that's what they enjoy about it, that's what they should do. i suspect that i shall always be a moderate climber though. my aspirations don't lead me to goals of leading anything harder than 5.10+ if it happens it happens, it probably won't though b/c i think there are so many things to climb at the crags and alpine at that level and below. things much harder than that involve risks that i'm not sure i can justify as a parent. (ok-maybe some sport routes w/clean falls are harder than that and not too risky)

matt you make an excellent point.... h/e i think the major difference is the emphasis the 2 sports place on awareness of environmental impact. i know very few climbers who don't respect erosion control boundaries at crags, closures for raptor nesting, staying on maintained trails when possible, carpooling to the destination, trail maintenance activities etc. that's not to say there aren't some that don't pay attention to these things but there's an emphasis on good environmental behaviour. i don't see the same sort of thing from the snowmobile group. just an observation but it's one i've made repeatedly.

i know we've got a few posters here from spokavegas. what do you see as the pros and cons of living there. i mean everything from cost of living to climbing.

we covered it all i think, climbing at the crag, ski up peak and then ski down, lame hike up rattlesnake ridge (partner will have to write that TR), more climbing, easter stuff w/family, driving.

while the practical side of this idea is outstanding, it could bring the wrath of CPS upon you. might i suggest a healthy serving of grape flavored dimetapp. works like a charm

i think i'm glad we decided we didn't want to drive all the way to the TH after reading your TR! hope you had fun anyway.

i think i might be "in" for the spring ski "in"

i think i'll be there late on friday. we'll be chasing a skinny 9 yr old w/an attitude.

PETA had a good concept they just go waaaaaaaaaaaay too far. cruelty towards animals is unacceptable plain and simple. if you domesticate an animal or take responsibility for a domesticated animal (pets, livestock etc) it is your duty to provide reasonable food, shelter and care for that animal. h/e it's just way too insane to think that an omnivorous species (humans) should all become vegans. just plain nuts. note: i myself am largely vegetarian, consuming the occasionally tasty fishy.

yay! the dairy freeze. but i'm only going if rumr does!

sunday morning we had a couple of hours before the obligatory visit to the family so we got up early and headed up to e38. we climbed a couple routes to warm up. while i was at about the second bolt of a route i see some guy come blazing up by himself. he looks agitated. he starts poking at the gear from 2 girls who were climbing next to us. he asks my partner if it's ours and he says no. about this time i'm at the chains setting up to rap down and the rest of this guy's heard show up. the gals who had climbed the route next to us had rapped down and were climbing something else. we had planned to do that route next. stress case has laid a rope at the bottom of that pitch. jumped on the pitch i had just climbed with one of his heard. 2 more were setting up a tr on another route and there was still one more hanging out idly. none of this would really have bothered me except that a) the guy was rude to my partner b) was considering messing w/someone elses stuff c) had thrown a rope at the bottom of route that no one was going to climb for a bit. it was just plain rude. don't be rude at the crag. just b/c you want to climb it at some point doesn't mean you should tie it up until you're ready.

NBBG is better than the Mt Si in terms of smoke and food. Frankly, though that place sucks. Rogues is better.

the short answer is: it depends how much you dilute the base in water.

as a long time resident of the pacific northwet it makes me worry about summer. we could be using up our allotment of nice days.

if i had the power i'd delete it. sorry about that sobo! btw- thanks for all the helpful info. i'm sure we'll find this kitty a good home on way or another. i'm just not willing to dump her off at the humane society and hope.

i want to.... but i can't go for that long then. try again in september

"DKDC"

well the obvious answer is this: it's proof that the brain that does the real thinking isn't covered by pants.

hey! the guy at rei told me the fukame stilletos were an excellent approach shoe. i thought he meant for route not a man.

ok let me rephrase....she'll be in the same area code as you guys. she might even let you buy her a beer. i wouldn't count on being allowed to touch or carry her gear though

cc.com doesn't to sponsor this hottie. cc.com has icegirl. she's hot and she climbs and she'll actually talk to you guys

hey that's my line! except i wouldn't charge!