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I don't really know, but he can't spend it in prison. From what I've heard of his stuff he doesn't talk about his criminal past or any of the victims, which makes me more sympathetic to allowing him to produce art from prison. If it were about the victims, the crimes, or inciting other psychos, I'd be all for banning it.

Manson has some really great stuff, and it's not all psycho stuff either. GNR covered one of his songs: "look at your game girl" and it rocks. He was very talented and on his way to the top before he went nuts. I see no reason why we shouldn't enjoy the art of a lunatic, as long as he doesn't get to enjoy the profits (and he'll never get out so that's not a problem).

I'm headed for RR on the 27th, then to Josh on the 31st. I'll be staying there until the 5th I think. That kinda breaks up my ROAD TRIP but it will be worth it to do some of the longer climbs I missed in Vegas.

Or Bweenas handcwack. Yup, I'll bet he's tipping back a few Coors Lights with his buddies in Creekside, about to set some furniture on fire or throw snowballs at the cops. Fucking white hat and puka shell necklace wearing, Acura driving, never truly climbing, sophmores.

"Chawlwie! Whats wong wiff the outdowr advenwure cwub? Pwoffessor Pewkins was vewy nice to me." Micahel probably hasn't sent the slabs and overhangs of the wind sculpture yet either.

Und talk in a sehr nonchalante accent about plans on sie Eiger in Schpring, or some other nonsense.

Nah, trundling wouldn't have even put a dent in the helmet that guy had on. We just climbed and rappelled our route (Beckey rte on Liberty Bell) twice before they could get up Concord once.

Exactly what I was trying to say to Micahel here.

Ralph, A Mountie made a smartass remark to my cimbing partner once about how the route he was on was rated 5.6+, while ours was only 5.6. That really opened my eyes to the possible uses of the plus/minus rating. I won't forget that lesson soon.

Micahel, That's been done in the past. But what's the fucking point this time? I think deadguy/bandgeek has brought needed debate to the board. His original posts weren't all that tasteless anyway.

Probly right. Hey how's the climbing weather in Vegas right now? Windy? Or are you in Seattle? I'm heading down there soon.

You want me to throw it into the tub when White Rabbit peaks?

I have a friend who got serious rope burn. His belayer dropped him from the top of a climb. He grabbed the side of the rope going up in an attempt to stop himself (unsuccessful of course). The result: a nice 11mm peep hole when he made a fist. Took a while for him to heal, even longer before he let his girlfriend belay him again.

Matt and Scott, thanks for the info. I've been thinking about doing the Tooth this way just because it would be a novelty, like riding a gondola for approaches in Europe. Of course I'd take brandy, nutella, brotchen and all the other essentials to make it a true Euro experience. Will post TR when complete.

That's better. Keep it comin'.

I've never really used gloves for much either. If I did get a pair I'd make sure they were ribbed for increased sensitivity, or maybe lambskin...

But don't you think the results are kinda skewed since you won't get to think or even live if they're incompetent? Not to bust on SAR after the time and effort they put in, but the SAR guys I have met have been pretty bad, both in respect to knowledge and physical conditioning. I'm sure there are many exceptions to this statement, though, and I hope they're around if I need them. From the Captain's poll it looks like we should all just bow to Erden.

Jesus was BLACK dude.

Hey, isn't this the first time you two have posted back to back without fighting over liberal/conservative politics? Trask: you are reformed and gentlemanly (but not manly), still I prefer your old ways. Iain: I like the "Am I Ninja Or Not" photos. Uhhh, I got deja vu while I was posting that. That's fucked up, this isn't even reality! It's bad when a web site enters your dreams.

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Banning avatars sucks. The tasteless can be ignored. Hell, nobody banned trask when he posted tasteless shit for months on end. Bring back deadguy, Donkey Punch, and Choco Trombone, they were all comical in my opinion, and no worse than trask was in the beginning.

Fine quote GW. The numbers that sit on their ass and watch a handful of climbers are on the rise in many places though. (and some are totin' guns I see )

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(As always)it's a tie for me between my first climbing trip ever and the next climbing trip I'm about to take. First: Springtime multi-pitches at Castle Rock, sleeping in the parking lot because the campsites were covered in snow, drinking beer under the stars (just about the time I turned 21), skipping class and listening to a bluegrass cover of "Gin & Juice" in my buddy's Subaru. Next: Going on a mission to Red Rocks, then after mission is complete, going on a bender in Joshua Tree for a week. Another good topic from Dru. He's having a consistent season here in Magic Pretend Climbing Land.