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And yet, in all probability, a better man than you. Probably. I let my Nazi party dues lapse once.

Former Hitler Youth. Right on!

They're a joke.

If one were really interested in fighting SUVs the best way to do that would be to lobby in favor of higher gas taxes or use tax based on vehicle weight.

Chemists were pretty damn cavalier with the risk of poisioning in those days. Familiarity breeds complacence. A lot of them died from poisoning or cancer, for example Mme. Curie and Emil Fisher. Lord knows how Hoffman calculated what dose he should give himself based on a completely unknown amount absorbed through the skin. LSD must have a fairly wide "therapeutic window", if you excuse my use of the term for a drug with no legitimate medicinal use.

Classic!

When I first led that climb, I remember I was so pumped that those last ten feet were the hardest part of the climb. I so badly wanted the clean on sight. I wanted to slump onto a cam and yell take. I wouln't let myself. I hauled my sorry ass onto the top with the very last energy I had. It was a great moment for me.

Nutritional supplements are all derived from natural products, usually plant extracts, ephedra for example. Drugs are synthetic or semi-synthetic.

You don't have to go to Vantage for that.

The 1994 law is simply a bad law. The FDA exists because of all the people who used to die from taking "patent medicines" that were not tested or proven safe. Congress should repeal the law or amend it.

Sounds like a good day to visit Middle East Wall. That should be out of the wind.

Glacier ice as "overburden", interesting.

Come on, Peter, the conservatives are with the Judge on this one. It almost sounds as though you are critical. The FDA is bad for business, is it not?

Squid, at least get your story straight. We are not talking about RU-486. That is not the "morning after" pill they are talking about. The morning after pill is ordinary hormones in a high dose. I seriously doubt RU-486 ever will be available over the counter or SHOULD it. The morning after pill can and should be made available because it does not require close medical supervision to work.

This is one of those weekends where maybe it's a good idea to stay home and accumulate more freedom points with your better half.

Do you have a source on some good neon spandex? I think it is exactly what I need to take my climbing to the next level. I'm already using the correct gear sling, so I know that isn't it. I'd say ask DFA, but he probably isn't old enough to have the Neon kind in his closet.

i thought i'd like this sling. i didn't it does keep all the gear from sliding together but if you decide to swith sides with it suddenly all your big stuff is up front. it's also harder to slide your gear out of the way if/when you need to. The shoulder strap is asymmetrical. If you want to switch sides and still keep the small stuff in front, all you have to do is invert the strap, with the fuzzy side up. That'll teach your partner not to rack on the wrong side! Actually, it isn't any less comfortable that I can tell.

I can think of alot of stuff that is more extreme: * rock climbing with ice tools (aka mixed climbing) * Aussie 18 foot skiffs * having children * starting your own business * fighting in stupid wars in far-off countries so neighbor can drive SUV and complain about gas prices Do you really think Aussie "aydeen" foot skiffs are more dangerous than rock climbing? Do people get killed doing that? There's no doubt about it, those machines are radical. They are like trying to ride a Brahma Bull. It would like nothing better than to throw you off.

I started out with the El Cheapo REI sling, but as I started to carry more gear on harder routes, I hated the way everything ran together in a jumble, so I bought a Metolius model with four separate loops. I got rid of the extra loop that attaches opposite the main one. It is a pain in the ass and it prevents one from swinging the gear out of the way. I like this sling, but I know people who hate it with a passion. To each his own. When I am carrying a light alpine rack, I still use the REI, because it is lighter and adequate for that use.

Would you agree with this quote from the article? "As far as sports go, you can't get much more extreme than rock climbing. "

An important point of the article is that most sports drinks do not have enough salts to prevent hyponatremia.

I once went in to do Dreamer with Ade on a Tuesday, and we encountered no fewer than three other parties on the route, including our own Ken4ord. The bike approach should keep the crowds managable.

I caught the tail end of a report on the TV news last night about a 10 ft high dam at Colchuck Lake being close to failing. I didn't even know Colchuk Lake had a dam. I wonder if they really meant Snow Lake?

I guess the moral of the story is compete the way you train. Some people go to races and find stations giving out water and stop at every one. They aren't getting this much water when they train. It seems that in any group of people there will always be some minority that indulges to excess.