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Well fine then, however, I just looked up ad-hominem in teh online dictionary and your picture was right there. ps, you have green aliens under your porch steps.

Just start a thread with Adams pics here on it and then open it up and ask for submissions. Get a bunch of your girlfriends and GF climber types together to get dudes to submit and to talk over the fine points of the art....Maybe put it on spray so people can open up and talk raunchy:-) Guys love to show it. Pretty soon, it'll be hot and cold naked pics of Fabio, Rob Lowe, Adam here and perhaps even the infamous man of mystery and star of Romance novels "Jake Porter". The young man taking these pictures would I'm sure be classified as "Hot" by any woman who would look at him (if you could talk him into posting a pic), and could probably model any agency he walked into. 6'2", 175 lbs, hard as a rock. (body I mean) For me, at 54 I look like a marshmallow, so no one wants to see me naked but my wife...and even then.....

Bush had Cookies disabled. JB, I read most of your links, but some, like the soaw one you just posted on Trashs gov't thread contain so much bull shit, lies and misinformation that I get exhausted even thinking of argueing it. So better I let you think that the lil green men are living under your porch rather than try and argue you out of it.

shhhh, I was ignoring that earlier and now it's a bit awkward as I just acknowledged it.....

How about a "Men of Cascadeclimbers.com" calender? You ladies can vote in the winning entry's.

JB (does the B stand for Bone?) Please please please read this. I'm sure you are a real nice person, but you are running off down the alley way raving by yourself, and all of us find it a bit strange. No one here would not say take FW to task when he starts digging into Barak for not solving, within moments of taking office, the 8 years of trashed that was dumped on his desk. However, on THIS THREAD, Fairweather posted a joke, it's a link to a JOKE which everyone else is discussing in veiled terms, and you are raving like a madman on a totally different subject! PLEASE CLICK THE LINK IN THE TOP POST AND THEN RANT ON THE FAIRWEATHER ANTI-OBAMA THREADS OF WHICH THIS IS NOT ONE. I think thats the summation of the posters up above me anyway. Take care!

They need to measure the holes to see if the Slovenians drilled with an incorrect sized drill. Sucks that dude died on it. I've know people around here that bought 10mm bolts thinking they were 3/8". I don't know anyone who miss installed them that way though. In fact, a 10mm bolt would be a bitch to try and slam into a 3/8" hole. round peg/square hole kind of thing.

No and my head isn't spinning around spitting out pee soup either I wonder if I should just head over tonight and put up some kind of fixed guide rope. I just accidentally chopped another rope last month so I should have plenty of old ones (but it's still hanging out) Wonder how that would run, or if it would just be getting in the way>? Jim mentioned that the fixed line on LOTLP was put in during the 90's I think he said. You must be the only person doing routing maintenance out there and haven't gotten to that yet, I'd have a fear that a rope would eventually break on someone at RB.

chock on the butt (route name) Ha ha! (i think it's light reflecting Tokogirl)

more unsubstantiated ad-hominem. good going Rob.

What I like about Kevbone is that he at least will read your stuff before he mis-interprets it and comes back with a Roasana Roseanna-Danna rant for a reply yet everyone gives him grief for this. You don't even try to read others stuff generally and just go on rants based on what you believe might have been said. My son use to do this when he was @ 3 or 4. He'd read the first word and try to guess the rest. He grew out of it and we all have hope for you too JB. I suspect RBW is somewhere to the left of you, is very pro-Obama and anti-Bush, and you attacking him is only one more of a long line of meaningless unimportant diversionary posts you have layed down here. [video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfIVOPWs_4o&feature=related Perhaps this video will help you.

Ha ha! I have $20 on that one! I was busy raising kids the last go-round, and I would not contradict anyone's version of events as I wasn't there, it was a long time ago, and don't know: but that has not my experience with any of these folks and I wouldn't say that at all. ps, Kevin, you don't have to worry about being packed up and shipped off to Iraq...well, unless you keep yanking Josephs chain and then he might just do it himself.

Adam says that his buddy was there climbing yesterday but left before the accident. F*k, must be a tough breed of kid, I thought it was pretty cold to be climbing in the shade....but I guess I'm getting to where I'd rather curl up around a warm fire all winter anymore....

Don't know for Syble but there's plenty of strange stuff out that way. I run into people who I've never seen EVER in my life out there. Last year I ran into 2 different people, both of whom said they had been climbing out there for years and years: one of whom said he'd been going there for 26 years, and the other said something like 20 years, whom I'd never ever seen before. BTW, I drilled the holes on top a bit ago when I was out there with Crackman of the super crack there, Crack Warrior, in the middle wall but haven't put in chains yet. Posted it here and must have talked to 20-40 people about it last summer, most of whom had never heard of the route, didn't know where it was, and could totally care less if I wanted to do bolts or probably even widen the jams with a chizzel, but I did meet 3 dudes climbing together that just lit me up. They were outrageously and totally pissed that people were putting in convience anchors where none had ever existed before, like Bluebird and White Rabbit, but it turned out they didn't know where Crack Warrior was. The approach is real hidden, and one of the best routes there stays dirty cause no one does it. I explained about the big fir that had snapped and rotted and how there is no good pro as the only thing that looks like a crack was break in a boulder and they got quiet on that issue. I crept away quietly. Cleaned up the approach for CW and dug it out too so it's safer as well. Left a bolt next to the shit pin that some kind soul had left there. Now I need to pound the chains. That lack of knowing people just happened again. I just PMed Adam as he's 30 and goes out there regularly, and he said he was wondering if it was a dude I'd never heard of called Matthew something who lives right there and climbs there all the time...and who is 30 years old, like the artical says. So we'll see. Hopefully the dude is OK. BTW, how come everyone is talkin about bolts (here) and birds (Beacon) and there's hardly a comment about Adams naked ascent of his still as yet unnamed NEW route? NAKED PICS NOT SAFE FOR WORK later

I only do that when it's wet or I have beginners with me Jeff, so it has to be someone else I'm sure. How about just a shorty fixed rope hitched on the trees there? That's not adding anything permanent and it can be a beater that will easily take bodyweight, so when bubba pulls it cause he needs a tow rope or someone objects to the "new" pro, the loss won't hurt financially. People can put on their harness's on top and clip it with a daisy. The downside is that the toothless crankers and riff raff will be more able to get down it to steal the backpacks that people leave on top there. (I think I've heard that story at least 3 distinctly different times). It's the just getting TO the bolts on the edge of these climbs thats dangerous. Once folks get on them, they seem to do OK. The note in the book is a good idea as well.

Well, they didn't close the Fremont bridge, a major Interstate Freeway in PDX, either. There have been birds nesting right on the bridge as well. They aren't going to piss off and inconvenience the bulk of the taxpayers DO YOU KNOW WHY? Because if they did, THE ENDANGERED SPECIES ACT WOULD BE RE-WRITTEN and their asses would be DE-FUNDED and they would have to go get real jobs. That's what you are meaning to say right Kev?. But it's OK to shit on you and me with incomplete or inaccurate science because you and me are little people without significant voices in the halls of power. Right? Did I paraphrase your thoughts accurately? How did I do there? It's been said that it's a game of often marginal or zero benefit to society whereby they force you to engage them, so that they can keep and expand their jobs. Write to your congressmen and senators. No one here can do a damn thing about it.

hey JB, you see this one yet:

I just said that

But it's sooooo difficult to click and read the links...like those on STPS earlier post.

Anyone recognise the area? Or know the person or where they were? Adam was climbing over there last month and said that there are several homeless living in the cold down there in tents and tunnels, including inside of that blasting tunnel at the base under Video Bluff. Maybe they could organize them into a version of YOSAR? They could call it Butt-sar (Butte search and rescue)