billcoe

I doubt these guys will be doing Grade 6 routes this trip, although some of them have been up the big stone previously. I can forward info over, who knows, and they all have their stuff knit tightly together and would be great partners.

Isn't it true that 2 out of 5 Americans actually are angry at Obama because they are mixing him up with Tiger Woods?

LOL! At least these guys were out using theirs!!! Hey GS, do we have to pay extra to see the money shot of Kyle actually climbing?

My wife wants to get me a Spot or Spot 2. Spot One: http://www.climbmaxmountaineering.com/spot-personaltracker.aspx Spot Two: http://www.rei.com/product/784892 I go running around in all kinds of strange places alone all the time. She thinks this will help me out - in case, or rather, when, I screw the pooch. Which she believes will be the situation sooner or later. Of course, I'm not different than anyone else here in that we all think we are invincible and impervious to any problems. I often change plans at the last moment. Occasionally see a mountain from the top of another mountain and spontaneously head over that way. I am often the only person who knows even remotely where I am, and even then sometimes even I don't know where that is. Less distance is traveled now of course, so I'd be easier to track, than when I was younger and in better shape. Last year I came millimeters of doing an Aaron Ralson on my leg while still 100' off the deck. I'd done a rappel to a nice ledge that had a sizable rock on it approx. half way down a cliff. A large, crotch high, boulder in fact: which should have trundled straight off the cliff, but instead pivoted when I yanked on it and in what appeared to be a malevolent chase scene straight out of a Hollywood thriller, followed me around like an insane killer after a damsel in distress as I pulled back and swung towards the cliff to avoid it. By some strange twist of fate, it followed me right around and then slammed into the cliff, pinning my entire leg: yet allowed me a large enough clearance point that I could pull my leg out of the small hole it left. This, of course, took some extreme contortions to get the leg out as the boulder wasn't going to be moving anytime soon. I would have been less concerned as these contortions were occurring had any of my buddies known where I was.....or if there had been a human within screaming, crying, and little girl noises distance. Normally all that crying and wimpering does is attract a hungry Cougar, yet I was up on a cliff, and could laugh at that irrational fear this time. Perhaps even if I had a cell phone handy AND there was coverage:-) Beyond all that, as a background, I have a little bit of anguish and philosophical issue over going into the back county, screwing up, and then relying on technology to bail me out.....but then again, it may be better than sawing my leg off next time I meet an angry boulder that has my name on it. Anyway, I don't know anyone with the Spot, or Spot 2 except my old partner, he's ambivalent but his wife supports it. Mine wants to be buying me one in the next day or so. I'm indifferent, especially when I see the $99.00 annual fee. We all die, and I don't know if I really am worth that, given those conflicting philosophical issues I mentioned above. What can you all add to this idea of a Spot personal locator? Do you have one or know anyone with one? What is their experience? My old climbing partner's wife put this idea in my wife's head over pizza recently cause I think he's even crazier than me. He has the spot now I think, but may have upgraded to the Spot 2. Seems like a waste of money to me. What do you think?

I have not and it looks awesome! So does Pillar of Hercules, but in person, it looks much less impressive than FWGs pic! I don't have any pictures of that one, Monkey Face or Rooster Rock:-( I have some up in the lower Cascades on my tick list for next year: BTW, is this one below a pinnacle or is it technically just a lump?

OMG! you are so on Peter! However, can we wait for it to warm up? My arthritic fingers don't even seem to type well in this weather. LOL ! I'm not sure if it's dementia Scott, cause I have some great memories with these guys running long laps in the valley, so the memory is still there, but the processing has gone haywire. Nice call Peter, on the money.

Damn straight! I dream of long clean granite cracks......then I wake up after a nightmare of this: LOL! photo: Jim Opdycke Interestingly - some of my buddies were all sitting around last night strategising on a Yosemite trip this spring and I was blowing them off so I could stay here and do new routes......what was I thinking?

Nope, like all these other guys I'd bow down in humble shock, awe and arousal.... ...can we see the picture then?

pic of my son. photo: Jeff Thomas

Where's the rest of the ropes LOL! Looks like a good crew.

How tall is Little Needle rock anyway?

true dat, but its possible you were born in the wrong century as well.

Pope, just go back and review the entire thread called "Sport vs Trad which I linked. http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/896687/Sport_vs_Trad#Post896687 There are 1300 mostly worthless posts on this very subject. You and Raindawg in particular sprayed hard on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and were unable to convert anyone. Everyone who posted to that thread showed up with a existing opinion and they all got expressed multiple times. Overwhelmingly almost everyone is saying you guys are full of beans and there is a multitude of reasons why. So for you to show up and start pissing on Alan's informational thread and start kicking him in the balls over your personal failed agenda moments after he shows up to say hi and give us some info shows an huge lack of class. Had you done that in person around a campfire, you would have been bitch slapped and had your ass kicked. Not by Alan cause he's too damn nice. By all of Alan's many, many friends. For that kind of crap you pulled won't just chase off Alan, but most sane and rational climbers, some that are more old school and pure than you, who are thinking of posting. In the end, those kinds of actions are not just immature, but very destructive to the normal folks who like to come here. You and Don need to review what it already says on the thread in the header right under where it says ROCK CLIMBING FORUM: "Come Join Peter Puget for inspiring discussions on the joys of cragging in a spray free zone. " In case you aren't aware, no one - I mean no on, finds your incessant droning on this subject inspiring, and everyone can agree, as this thread of hundreds of angry contentious posts on this very subject attests to the sprayness of the subject. Now you want to whine about it and restart it, and are upset that you can't have another 1300 post angry divisive identical topic right where the rest of us want to see inspiring discussions on the joys of cragging in a spray free zone. "[/i]. Take it to spray, and refire up the existing thread on this very subject. Thanks OW for moving it! ..and thanks for that pic pink, it's why I show up here. Love the Willans harness there OW, were you getting off the stone, heading up or just camping next to the road? I'll add one of Ujahn last month in Red Rocks belaying Bryan up some 1200 foot long crack route. Josephs route is just left there. Check out the blood on the fingers there...lol

I wuz like: "Boyz, we're all on the same damn side here." Then U wuz like: "I doubt that very much." Then I wuz all like talking about the constitution meaning that wuz the side we wuz all on and stuf. Then U wuz all like: "What" Now I'm all like thinking of only responding "Huh", but instead I'm all like jus' repeating myself again. Good talkin' to ya.

LOL me too!

No no, I am old. I saw that but my eyes are going and I thought the inscription said "Made in Korea".....really - and I didn't want to offend you - nobody had mentioned the words "Nanga Parbat" at that time and "Made in Korea" isn't anything to get cranked up over. Nanga Parbat, different story dude, shades of Messner and Herman Buhl.....I didn't know if you were posting it as a joke or to be serious...Sorry. Besides, it's not the kind of thing you'd use in gorge ice or at Beacon, and it seemed out of place in this thread. Furthermore- if you posted in on Dane Burns thread here: http://cascadeclimbers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/905943/Collections#Post905943 wouldn't it be like running around shouting "I HAVE A SMALL DICK I HAVE A SMALL DICK LOOK LOOK!" at a porn convention? Not trying to be offensive, but click the link and see if you don't agree with that. Now that Terror.... that's something for sure, and I think you would have no trouble if you put it on Danes thread. He might even try and buy it off you. Everyone knows that amazing Hamish MacInnes photo of him burrowing through some big-assed cornices with his terrors. Love to see the hammer pictures. Here's an existing thread with some of my rockclimbing hammers which you can add too. Danes thread was an insiration to me...although his quantiy and quality pretty much means that all the rest of us are running around saying "I HAVE A SMALL DICK I HAVE A SMALL DICK LOOK LOOK!" it's a small price to pay. HAMMERTIME! As an FYI, Joseph is helping get a run of D5 (the old A5) hammers done. You can line up to buy one off Supertopo. Thanks for the Vimeo info as well.

I'm still running Windows 2000 on a Dell Optiplex 150. The down side is that the machine is almost old enough to be the hand crank model. The upside is that I still have a 1.44 floppy drive bay....so I haven't found the movie maker, but it looks like a hell of an idea.... Denalidave, those pictures don't look like Blownout...are you sure? BTW, ask Adam about the sick 70mph winds on Mt Hood and freezing his butt off LOL!

Thanks for the post Mark. I suspect that most of us are all real close in views on this...once a lot of the bs is cleared out of course. Take care all BC

Thanks Johngo, good input. Small point, I didn't have to deal with it, the story I mention was another's and not my personal experience, that dude I mention is a significantly better climber and teacher than me. Does what you say mean that non-Mazamas can show up for field sessions, or just classroom? Hey, your little boy is still in your avatar pic, didn't your son grow up some?

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edited as the mods cut and pasted all of these posts into spray from below a good Alan Watts post in the Oregon Forun wherein Pope and Raindawg attacked and nastiness such as inane Clown photos by moi were posted in response... Like Raindawg, I too have nothing to say, however, I've decided it's best to not say it again this time.

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Ohhhh THAT pin! Wasn't me, but I will compliment you on a great looking wall hammer there.....

I think you can order about any configuration and FF tries to accommodate you. My brother bought me a lesser model down parka which they don't show available with Event as a gift and he ordered it with Event fabric. He ordered it in November and it was finished and showed up in late June.....I was all like ...crap...too late as it was 90 degrees in town....but then I took it along on a solo jaunt to a higher elevation climbing area and here it is just in time for this 4th of July trip below. This purchase coincided with a large theft they reported of a bunch of their finished goods in a container were stolen which may have contributed to that. lordy they make great stuff.