two things, you can't get pissed at someone and expect them to give you what you want the next time you try to deal with them. 2nd as far as all the guys at OlyMt. i'd let them hold the end of my rope any time and not think twice about it, and if fact have takin many a whippers with one of them on belay down at the local crag. there good climbers and most of em can climb 10s off the frickin couch. and have been doing the
Olypic's for quite some time.