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Where would you go? Was planning on doing Challenger but don't have enough time to get to Luna and Fury so does it make sense to go that far in? Looking for glacier climbing and light rock, if possible. I'd love to hear suggestions.

Climb: Mt Shuksan-Fisher Chimneys Date of Climb: 8/21/2004 Trip Report: Planned on hiking to Lake Ann on friday night but horrible traffic in Seattle and a few other problems (one group missd the turn and ended up in Concrete) caused us to just have beers in the trailhead parking lot and crash until 4am. Left trailhead at 5:30 and arrived at the 5800' bivy spot above Lake Ann at about 8:15. The forecast, weather in the distance and a covering cloud had us questioning our journey, but after the cloud layer burned off we continued on. Somewhere in the chimneys, exposure scared our only one girl off and she headed back to the car. We arrived at the base of Winnie's slide at about 11:00. Again we questioned going forward but continued on. Took almost an hour to get up the slide as everyone used the rope one at a time. This part was pretty sketchy with people that had rarely used an ice axe before. The holds were good, but there wasn't a whole lot of room for error. Once at the top, we hiked up about 10 minutes to the ridge line above and then finally decided to turn around. At the slide I set up a rap line down the west wide of the slide. It started to rain. We rapped down 30m and then switched to the fixed line, which felt sturdy. If i had to do this again, i'd have used a rap station that was higher up the slide but centered and tried rapping to the top of the fixed line. Rapping down in the berg was a pain. Now it was really coming down and we still had to get down the chimneys. At first it was pretty scary but after 20-30 minutes we got pretty used to it. The rock is pretty sticky and there are tons of holds. We took our time and got out safely. We were back at the car by 6:30. Lessons Learned: Never go with people you don't know. I was invited on this trip and had never met 2 of the members. Two people didn't even have belay devices. I realized that I was the only one who would've known how to set up any pullies or raps or anything for that matter. The other thing i learned was to go with my own instincts. one member kept pushing to go forward even when we knew it was going to rain and we knew we didn't want to downclimb in the rain. He persudaded us and it upsets me that we let him. Gear Notes: standard glacier gear Approach Notes: Easy route finding. Winnie's is the nly tricky part. Rap down to the fixed line on the way down.

Just as a follow-up, we did this route on Saturday. Got a late start from the trailhead and turned around at the top or of Winnie's Slide. Started raining soon after. TR to come.

Not to be a dick, but the listed climbs would definiltely be beginner. They are workouts and fun, but certainly not technically challenging or committing. Are you sure?

I shouldn't have said beginners. We've all done sahale, adams, helens, and a ton of backcountry boarding. There's really only one quasi-newbie. so someone said sulphide was less strenuous and more scenic? From the maps this didn't appear to be the case.

I thought a classic eastside experience involved a visit to Microsoft and lunch at McDonalds.

How old were the kids? I bet alpinfox's parents didn't know what he was up to at 16!

Just trying to stay away from the extra elevation change ;> I think we'll give it a crack.

Is this a hard route? thinking about doing it on saturday with some people that aren't super experienced on the ropes. Didn't look crazy from the maps but some of the pics and remarks here make me think that it isn't something for the novice. Thoughts?

Hrm. We were going to try and do Luna too. I winder if it's doable in reverse. One day to Luna base. Second day over Luna and to Challenger Glacier, Third day over Challenger and out to Wiley or further. Fourth day back to trailhead...

I was hoping to make it to Challenger Base camp on day one. I know it's 14 miles before the bushwhacking begins, but was still hoping it was possible. is it? how early did you start? thanks and awesome pics/TR!

I've noticed the same thing with smartwool. While trying on boots at rei last week i got hooked on the rei brand wool socks and bought a pair. Used them this weekend and really liked them.

How long is the hike from the trailhead to Snowgrass flats? Was planning to arrive at like 2pm and hiking to snowgrass that afternoon. that should be plenty of time, don't you think?

Agreed! At least vegas is fun for a long weekend. I lived in Phoenix for seven years...ugh

you think your life before birth was: someone who tries to cure with urine. duh

you must go through the whole thing and think about the intended audience. Psych Test

and how many humvees has Al Jezerra ridden in during this war?

My girlfriend is running the Portland race and she started training like two months ago. She's runnig like a 20 miler ever week and 3 shorter runs a week. I'm proud of her and all but man, she falls asleep early these days...

Back when I was in college, we never would've done something like this... --> All an underage person needs to get booze now is a credit card and a computer. That's what a bunch of Gonzaga University students found out last month. They ordered liquor, beer and wine and had it delivered to their front doors without ever being questioned about their age. Armed with full bottles and delivery receipts, the students are demanding that state Attorney General Christine Gregoire investigate several online companies selling and delivering alcohol to minors. <-- WTF is wrong with these kids? Shameful It's sad to see this happening in our fine state.

Another vote for: Beckey places a register, it's cool. If the Mounties place a register, it's arrogant. What about the Mazamas and the Cascade Roavers? I don't care if Beckey or the Mounties add it. Either way, it's arrogant. it's like claiming a mountain. To me it's the same as Coke putting the fuxoring register there.

I really don't see the need for the registers and I do find it pretty arrogant that the Mounties put them up there. I've signed some in the past, but it's always this sort of "oh...there's a summit register. i guess i'll sign." You probably don't need to remove them, but let's not put any more up there.

Two other things... 1. If all you want is an iBook for pleasure, they really aren't that much. 1100 bucks? 2. There's an apple store here in seattle. If you have any problems or questions you can just stop in. I want to point out that if you would've asked me this question 2-3 year ago, i never would've suggested a mac.

1) This is not true. In most cases from what I've seen you can't just reinstall the OS on Sony computers. They will not work because of all the proprietary crap in there. You have to install their version of the OS. And why oh why would you buy something with all this crap on it? I had a sony laptop and I didn't like it mainly for this reason. maybe it's gotten better, but Sony's aren't cheap either. 2)It's my personal opinion for sure, but the only one that i've seen come close is the new super thin one that's all black and still, it's not as attractive. 3)Yea i know how virtual memory works and i've built my fair share of computers (something that i won't do anymore) and my point is that you don't ever want to be using virtual memory. When you do you're going to get significant slowdown no matter if a drive is 20% faster or not (and in which case you sholud be looking more at seek times than throughput as normally your drive is jumping all over the place unless it's reading one continuous file...which is rare UNLESS you defrag alot AND you're working with large binaries LIKE uncompressed audio and video...none of which the average user does). I mean..if you want the geek solution, go PC (but i'd still stay away from sony). If you want a laptop that you'll love and it'll work all the time and is geared for what it says you want to do, go iBook. It's form over function for sure, but you have to ask yourself, what do you want to do with it? talk about hard drive throughputs or listen to music, make movies, and view pictures?

check the stats. i get over 4 hours on one battery pack with my monster of a laptop.

Well, I already told you why I'll vote for him (despite my earlier thoughts, i am not going to vote libertarian like i planned on only because i so want Bush out). His views on my three main issues are much more closely aligned with mine. I'm less concerned about history (which to be honest, don't seem all that differnt to me...6 of 1, half dozen of the other) or character. I'm an American and damnit, i'm selfish. Cheers