E-rock

Fuck Fern, I'm reaching end of quarter burnout I'm either grumpy or sarcastic all the time and I can't get a goddamn fucking thing done tonight and I have a paper due tomorrow afternoon. I'm behind on hours which means I'll be working throught the weekend and the only excercise I get is the mile and a half ride up Capitol Hill around midnight every night. I could have written a paper in the time I've spent here doign nothing, I can't wait to go visit my folks for thanksgiving. I'm gonna eat good cookin, ride horses, and see a dear friend, but that's shit less than a week away! [ 11-21-2002, 11:38 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Hey yeah now things are looking up, thanks lammy.

When I finally emerge from my cave of an office in a month and a half, with a new understanding of boundary element and finite element models, and a sore back from slouching in my coffee stained desk chair, I want to go climbing with another human being, if they're still out there, I can't even tell anymore, the whole world is on the other side of an IE window and it looks sad and bleak. I'd also like to get a dinner that's not out of a vending machine in a yellow wrapper. Maybe I'll even go skiing if it ever snows again. This is the most I've typed for the past two hours... oh God if you exist please help me....

You're right I do hate all men, but I don't climb, which is what make me "better" than climbers.

TLG, you are hardly one to criticize other's spelling. Please spell that word that means "to jack off". Try to imagine yourself speaking or writing in that tone to one of your male friends. A little sensitive tonight, "Dry-tool" boy. [ 11-12-2002, 11:00 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Muchas Gracias [ 11-12-2002, 10:03 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Matt, I have a 1990 Subaru Legacy Wagon. I use it for everything, including my field work in Death Valley. In April, I spent the entire month driving all over steep alluvial fans on unmaintained roads that cross a number of washes. I probably drove more miles of rugged dirt road in that month than I have in the last 3 years combined elsewhere. I did have problems from time to time with bottoming-out and my oil pan has some dents to show for it. In general I could have avoided 90% of the craters (and I got better as the month went on) if I slowed down, improved my technique, chose a good line, and got out to move the occasional oversized rock. That being said, bottoming was not unavoidable in some situations. However, I have not experienced a FS road yet that I could not navigate cleanly. The newer Outbacks have a bit better clearance and I may have avoided all of my scrapes in Death Valley with one. If I was used to a high clearnce truck my Subie might piss me off, but it hasn't. If you want a beater, I used to have an '82 subaru hatch-back that was indestructible. I could do 60 on sketchy dirt roads and not worry if I scraped a little, they don't make 'em like that anymore.

I just read this thread (don't know why), and it just sounds to me like some misogynists (read: greenfork, thelawgod, et. al), wanted to boss a girl around because they think they're better. Get over yourselves gentlemen, people get overly excited sometimes. [ 11-12-2002, 11:05 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

I can already hear Mtngoat and Puget's responses: 22 people dead is not genocide, even if they are members of one race or culture being targeted for extermination by another. If you can demonstrate that smaller massacres like this example contribute over time to a net decrease in the population of that race or culture, then THAT's genocide, and I'm not saying that it's not... just that anecdotes as evidence of racial extermination are much like people in the Mid-West basing their opinion of Global Warming on one unseasonably hot summer. [ 11-12-2002, 07:09 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Oh yeah caveman had a good point about introducing your pup to other dogs. It pays off big time. Take your dog to the dog park often from an early age and see how it interacts. It's fun to watch and your dog will love you for it. [ 11-12-2002, 07:05 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

I think another important issue to consider is the neutering of males. I've know a few dog owners who refused to neuter their dogs, because they felt it was the responsibility of other owners to spay their bitches (couldn't reisist ). While this may in theory be a good idea to prevent unwanted puppies (if everyone follows it), it is not a good idea for male dog interactions. One friend of mine complained how his dog always got in fights with other dogs that still had their balls. I asked him why he didn't get his dog fixed and he responded that his dog wouldn't be able to go hiking with him anymore . As if a dog needs its balls to hike and climb. Dogs are territorial and male dogs will fight if they still have the jewels. If people need a studly dog, perhaps they should train it to perform the marital duties as well. [ 11-12-2002, 06:45 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

You're walking a thin line over there on Round 1 buster

dammit [ 11-08-2002, 12:56 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Seriously guys I just post here cuz i'm sorta stupid and uhh bored and stuff. If everybody said smart useful things I'd have, uhh... like only spray to look at but now that I think about it that's wehre most of the psts are anywayss... {edited out last line because it actually sounded like I meant it} [ 11-08-2002, 12:58 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

FreeClimb9, You're a long ways from the PNW climbing community to be criticizing MattP as a whiner. You probably have very little idea of how well respected he is around here. Stop jumping on the caveman bandwagon and listen to what the man has to say, it can only improve this board. Caveman, you contribute nothing, the fact that you know MattP somewhat legitimizes your criticisms, but the past two days you've come across like a snivling little boy. "Wah, erik wants to kick me off the board" "Wah, MattP started iiiittttt." Sounds like fence sitter's rubbing off on you.

Nobody said last year was going to be El Nino.

quote: Originally posted by ScottP: What with all of this snapping and snarling and pontificating and proselytizing about nothing more than media-induced perception, I would like to know if anyone has any concrete examples of how any of this political shit you keep dragging out and beating each other with is going to affect your lives personally. Just curious, because you all are acting like it's some big fuckin deal. Complacency in politics gets us nowhere. If George Bush can appoint judges who will make insane rulings that uphold the legality of arrests for minor traffic offenses, then that DOES affect my life immensely even if I never do get arrested. If he now has a Congress that will not challenge his appointments, that affects me, whether or not I ever go to court. I want to live under a system that has the potential to be fair when I need it most.

I've got some CD's from a band out of Orem called Puri-Do. They were one of Utah's best bands, and some of their old members are currently playing in some of the best bands in SLC. They were bunch a queer moron kids who made albums full of sick lyrics about masturbation and gay sex and satan. Truly hilarious shit. Our sons don't fuck your sons... No they don't They just keep in in their pants and they work with revelations

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Ah fuckit the demonstration didn't work. [ 11-04-2002, 06:56 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

Cavey hurt my feelings. P.S. I think 'bilers are the hottest most rugged men on the planet. Everytime I see one, I wanna get my hands and tounge inside their greasy one-pieces and get nasty till we pass out from the fumes. [ 10-29-2002, 12:50 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

I need an avatar in order to safely say what I think about sled-necks.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: quote: Whew!! Your pucker's a little tight there bro. Have a You're probably right quote: Originally posted by ScottP: This summer I was sitting on the beach at Baker Lake alternately looking at Blum and Shuksan and my son and daughter throwing rocks. Down a ways was a family of PEPs (Piston Engine People). They were zipping around on those PWC (Personal Water Craft) making noise and stinking up the air a bit. At first I thought it was pretty annoying, but then as I got to watching them some, I saw they were having fun and enjoying the scene like I was, only in a different way. It didn't seem so annoying when I took it in that context. It's a different culture than mine, for sure, but no less valid of one. If you can't cut them some slack for being and thinking differently, then your intolerance just might send you to an earlier grave. I'm glad I posted afterall, because you've given me much to think about. I can be pretty fucking high-strung and self-righteous over my environmental beliefs. I don't want to die angry and in pain from too much life-long stress. But I will continue to lobby for non-motorized use, and perhaps, as I soften my approach, I may win over a few converts.

RobBob, since you are polling us for an opinion and this is something I feel very strongly about (and Caveman bullied me into responding with childish insults ), I'm going to speak my mind. I'll go much farther than to say that snowmobiles (and jetskis) should be banned from NP's, I think they should be restricted to a very finite number of specified locations where they are separated from all other forms of winter (and summer) recreation. I believe that people who partake in the use of snowmobiles and jetskis have no sense of aethetics and no reverence for the natural environment. Over the years I have had my altercations with 'bilers in the backcountry. My opinion is that they are generally a bunch of drunken, ape-draped, homophobic, brutes who feel empowered by their gas-burning toys and feel a need to overcompensate for their masculine insecurities. I think the practice of high-marking is destructive to the human spirit and our respect for the mountains. The high marking of high, steep slopes is done with such ease and speed that several sleds can track out an enormous mountainside in a matter of minutes. Because this act is so easy to commit, it makes the mountains feel smaller than they really are. It inflates the human reference frame to the point where we can view ourselves to be as significant as the mountains themselves, which on geologic and spatial scales is not true. I remember once talking a group of 'bilers out of beating me and my friend to a pulp, because my bigmouthed friend was yelling off the ridge at them. They believed that they had more of a right to be in the mountains than us because they "payed taxes on their sleds". These are the sorts of people who ride snowmobiles. They are the same people who bitch and complain that the governent taxes them against their will, then contend that their taxes have bought them priviledges (rights even!). The snowmobiler is a particularly odd sort of redneck, he (and I say HE because you see very few female high-markers/recreational sledders) comes from the city with his money, his gas burning toys, and his irreverence. He pollutes the land with noise and fumes, pisses off the locals, frightens the wildlife, and then goes home to his life of societal insecurities. The reason I was reluctant to post this is that many people on this site may use snowmobiles themselves for approaches. My opinion is biased against this for two reasons: I cut my backcountry teeth in a place where access was easy and snowmobiles were unrequired, and I choose not to access those places where a snowmobile would be necessary. Perhaps I would feel less strongly about snowmobiles as access vehicles if the four stroke engine was readily marketed. I think the two-stroke engine is a disgusting, wasteful excuse for engineering. Furthermore, I'm reluctant to say these things because: 1. I criticize backcountry snowmobilers for claiming their 'right' to recreate supercedes mine, while... 2. At the same time I contend to have 'more' of a right to visit the mountains in unmotorized peace. I am unable to reconcile this paradox in my own mind and fall back on the philosophical aspects of my opinion as expressed above. [ 10-29-2002, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: E-rock ]

quote: Originally posted by iain: quote:Originally posted by E-rock: Goddammit Mountain Goat Called by the formal "Mountain Goat" even. Impressive.