JoshK

you're right, I shouldn't let me extreme dislike for him call him that...how about the adulterer?

I think I'll just do the easier thing and vote with my voting rights when an initiative comes up.

scott, that's beautiful, where is it?

cj, thanks, that is exactly the point I am trying to make. After a fire rips through a bunch of charred trees aren't your problem, the fire already took care of your problem: the underbrush. Claiming that "thinning" out a bunch of already carbonized logs is going to prevent future fires is like claiming that shaving your receeding hair will make sure you wont get more bald in the future. Another issue is that you now have to construct logging roads to get to those trees, or at the very least leave tracks through the burnt area. Maybe we'll even get lucky and they'll have to cut a logging road through an unburned forest to get to the burned part! This would be dumb no matter who is in office.

Funny, I met a guy who knew him and he thought he was a very friendly and personable guy. The one guy everybody seems to agree is a dick is Mark Twight.

cause I know where Iraq is as opposed to 50% of the populace? If that makes me elite and superior, I suppose so...

[quoteI believe the government should not interfere with private business especially regarding an epidemic where the repercussions are so widely known and documented. I'm so sick of you people without an ounce of personal responsibility. When I go to a restaurant that has a crappy atmosphere, bad food, or that is really smoky, I DON'T GO BACK. It's quite simple really. Also, I am NOT a smoker. --tim You should claim I have no "personal responsibility" to my face. The very presence of smoking is a violation of my space. THey can be in the park and you can smell it 10 feet away. With that smell comes the harmful effects. I dont care how small, I shouldn't have to deal with it. Obviously banning it outside, etc. is ridiculous, but it's fair to do it inside. What about the employees who simply need work and have to put up with the smoke. Saying the entire restaurant and bar industry should find different work is idiotic. Get a clue.

It's true...basic geography has got to be the easiest thing to learn...it's esentially shape recognition...and our "public" can't manage to do it.

Is there anybody else that would be interested to see how phil jackson would do as a coach without jordan and co or shaq/kobe and co? My guess is he'd be an average coach. I really wouldn't doubt I could have won the NBA championship with the Jordan teams of the 90s.

[quoteWTF is a "Martlet"? Perhaps the insult would be better received if I understood it. You're making many claims about a underlying motive but it's all speculation on your part. I've seen you post in 3 threads, and it's all about "bad guys" hiding under your bed. Grow up. HAHAHAH. Wow, if this lingustic style doesn't smack of Martlet I dont know what does. You having fun playing dress up as "molly"?

Martlet, get lost. Here is a question for everybody...a fire burns down a forest, lets use the leavenworth 94 fire for an example. burned trees are left. THe underbrush has all been burnt away so the fire risk on the remaining land is quite low. Would you rather... a.)Have the scenery of burnt trees? b.)Have the scenery of a clear cut? Obviously I have no more knowledge of forest on this site than most people but I do know two things: 1.) If you belive Bush's administration is looking out for environmental concerns before timber company concerns you are really an idiot. 2.)Environmental groups (the large, mainstream ones) have smart people with degrees in forestry and other environment sciences working for them. I'd be willing to bet they are more informed than us and probably have a pretty good idea of what this is a dumb strategy.

Where did I suggest it was a black and white issue? Our forest fire policy over the last century, as you suggest, has led to the problem, but I hardly think bush's approach to cut down burned trees (which provide future nutrients) to reduce "fuel" is too brainy. After all, the fuel has already burned up. If you don't think his strategy on the national forests is swayed heavily by the timer industry I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd love to sell ya.

Brilliance...the bush administration is allowing salvage loggin to be used to "clean up" fire burned national forests. I can't think of anyway to better open up NF for abuses by timer companies that this. Obviously running bulldozers in over everything to chop down the large burned trees is a great idea. I mean who doesn't want to see a recovering forest full of little christmas trees and giant stumps? Anybody who can't see through this concept of using "salvage sales" to help the timer companies is pretty blind. "In 2002 President Bush announced his "Healthy Forests Initiative" to speed up treatment of diseased and overcrowded forests by limiting the process to legally challenge thinning decisions." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5014243/

Hefty SteelSack...not just those regular hefty bags, except nothing less than the best, the STEELSACK!

I know nothing about the history or the research, but isn't a little suspect when somebody all of a sudden reports a "previous" ascent (solo, none the less) after somebody has dug information on a first?

mmmm...ice cream.

MollyWorld, the latest incarnation of Martlet No thanks, my mom, or anybody in my family, doesn't smoke. I was just point out the sad truth about the smoking demographics.

I know, I'm just spouting shit.. Retiring at 40, even 50, is a pretty good goal. People are just much healthier and stronger into older ages now. I just seems to me that I see so many 50 to 60 years olds now that are running triathalons and shit like that. Back in the day 60 was a lot less active.

Yup, that's exactly what I needed! thanks man! -josh

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The real sad thing is the lower classes tend to smoke more, and they are the ones that can afford it least.

...who has been up recently? I think I'm going to take a hike up there with my dad and his friend tomorrow and I'm wondering how much of the talus beneath the colchuck glacier can you ski?

You are obviously drunk since you didn't comprehend any of what I said. Do you even participate in the markets? The big brokerages are using "program trading" which is essentially automated trading based on algortihms and the extent of this program trading represents a very large and growing percent of the transactions everyday (estimates put it in the 60% range). I don't trade with algortihms, tech analysis/charting voodoo, or anything else aside from fundamentals...cash flow, debt, earnings, dividend history, short interest, etc. I read the 10Qs, I read the balance sheets and income statements, I research the industries. Granted, when a company like World Com or Enron is cooking the books, even the most diligent research falls short, but with proper diversification even a total collapse of a company like that would not hurt you too bad. Common sense is the basis of any good investment strategy. Short term trading is much more about psychology and luck. I make short term trades, but as a very small percent of my holdings and in companies that are solid, large cap, dividend paying equities - MO, PG, GE, ABT, MRK, etc. All these "wall st darling" growth stocks are like playing with fire. Krispy Kreme, Starbucks, Taser....all waiting for a smackdown. And Taser got theirs, I shorted that shit with no reservations, it went up for another week and a half and then took a huge nose dive giving me a nice 23% return for nothing more than saying "this thing is WAY overpriced for it's growth potential" and acting on it. What do you really think the growth potential for Tasers is? People had the thing priced like they were going to have one in every home in the country. I'd wager that the "average joe" who is using mutual funds doesn't even understand the fee structure they are paying, nor do they know the true returns of those funds. The numbers the fund companies feed them don't take into account tax issues or fees. 80% of mutual funds don't even beat the S&P500 on an annual basis and less than 5% do it on a recurring basis. Joe Average could do better by simply buying SPDs or DIAs. Mutual funds are another scam for people unwilling or unable to learn about the markets. Yes, I was drunk. I have some money in the market, and it's managed by a professional. For knowing how to make so much money in the market, it seems like you should be wealthy and retired by now...

One job I do want the government to do is protect my health. They hurt my health. It's a public environment. The smoker doesn't have the right to invade my personal space, IMHO.