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I didn't tell anyone what they should do - just asked the question. An your answer seems to imply that you think you need to protect yourself - from what exactly? Jim...in short he needs to defend himself against whackos who legally purchased their semi auto handguns...quite a conundrum (spelling?), huh?

Our glorious, dead-letter Constitution states that the "right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." I know this will infuriate you statist heathens with an ax to grind, but 'not infringed' means if you're tall enough to put your money on the counter, you can have a gun. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it you anti-gun anal buccaneers. anti-gun? Chill dude...that's like saying we are anti-car...why don't we just extend the analogy a bit and everyone go run down to WalArms and buy the new readily available mini-Hbomb, or just some c4 and some claymors...you know, gotta have the latest in home defense, eh? I'm only maintaining that they should be licensed and restricted to people that are qualified to own them...

Greg...if you've been keeping abreast of the news you will have noted that a prison inmate was granted a sex change based on his civil rights...which i think is a fuking joke...it was under the part about cruel and unusual punishment and the fact that prison was preventing him from becoming her true self...gimme a break... I don't care how that bill of rights is worded...i still maintain that owning a gun in today's civilized world is a PRIVILEGE and can be monitored/regulated/ and control...it is completely beyond me, how any person, w/o any SERIOUS background checks, no proper education or training, can walk into a walmart and buy a 9mm semiauto pistol and all the ammunition he/she can put in a backpack...its completely fucking assinine... So somebody whining to me about their godgiven "right" really frosts my hide, when chances are someone this evening will be shot and a good percentage of the responses will be something along the lines of: "I didn't know it was loaded" "I didn't think my son could find it" blah blah blah Just so you know, i grew up hunting w/ rifles and shotguns and bows, so i'm not talking out of my ass...I don't think "everyone" should be able to own a gun, period.

I know what "it" says Its comical cuz some "rights" he gets to keep, like rights to medical care (sex changes, other bullshit), and others he loses... so, i actually think that some of the spelled-out "rights" are real, others are privileges, regardless of how you "spell" it...

Jim...cuz we all are scared down here...

Greg you got your threads mixed up. This one goes in the FEAR thread. Dru...buzz off...this is the USA down here...you canadians don't know squat bout owning guns...tallyhoo...

Then he shouldn't be armed!!!!

and greg...i said "maintain a stance"...that implies an opinion, not a fact. So don't label me as misleading... None of us were in that room of in the authors' heads at the time...

Yes, Greg i'm saying it is a privilege to defend yourself w/ a gun...keep your nose clean legally, so you don't lose the privilege of defending yourself/family w/ a gun...otherwise it'll have to be w/ a baseball bat. A convicted felon never loses his right to free speech. he is free to send letters to the press, blah blah blah...he does however lose his privilege of gun ownership... another example: if you are mentally unstable, you shouldn't be armed. and i can point you to just as many interpretations that show that clause to enable the young country to maintain a defense. This is the 21st century.

Greg...you crack me up... He's equating owning a gun to the PRIVILEGE (not RIGHT) of driving. Not everyone should be entitled to privileges...everyone is entitled to rights... That being said, i see no reason why it is our right to own guns despite your soon to be launched "Right to bear arms"...there is more than enough supporting historical documentation out there to maintain a stance that the right to bear arms was to maintain a militia...not self defence...it was cuz our country was to flatout broke to maintain a standing army... I don't want the stupid gangbanging fux out there armed...you should have to meet certain requirements, register the gun and be held accountable for it...it is a PRIVILEGE, not a right.

Walk off?? HAHAHAHA yeah, just down climb your pick of routes to the climbers left ...or hike off the backside and back around asterisk You can also single rap off of headless w/ a 70m...

Contact metolius and entreprises directly...tell them you want to buy seconds...they will usually cut you a deal...

Yes...my bad...to the right IN THE CORNER...the second pitch that i'm talking about then veers off left and finishes up the slab trending to the right of the arete...it is bolted face climbing...

cool, stuff I haven't done One of the best moderates at the park: go up the crack in the corner next (to the left) to karate crack...dunno the name of this...when you reach the belay, you will see a bolt line that trends slightly to the right of the arete that forms at the stance you are on...don't know the name of this either, but it is airy and exposed and fun climbing...5.8-ish...good route...DO IT!!!

How fast of a turnaround?

Dang...i do believe i might agree w/ something that dickhead said!! WOW!

PVC pipe would work...just change out diameter right?

Peter... Three boards....Middle board is the "grip"..."+" 's are through bolts (3/4") that you can load weights on... "." are nothing ..+................................+ ===================== ..+ ...............................+ =+==============+=== ..+................................+ ===================== ..+................................+ Lummox...STFU...and go do crest jewel...punter...

Reading that book, eh??? HAHAHAHA...be careful not to hurt yerself!!!!! Don't climb after doing that stuff... aaaand...the softball thing is the shiznet!!!!!

I spend the winter on the tred mill, and climbing one night a week. I do yoga and I just started lifting one day a week. I am in the best shape of my life. Include all that trask said as well Told you about that weightlifting thing, didn't i?!?!

Now this is the dilemna...I wouldn't replace pins on that thing...but that's cuz i feel ok on the available gear...thisis where things get fuzzy...cuz its what individuals "feel" like...

replacing shitty fixed pins w/ bolts?????

Things that make one go "hmmmm" or "mmmmm"

Peter, the guide book mentions that this has not gone free on lead...has it been done on tr, even w/ hangs?? If so, approximate free rating would be what????