RuMR

Just curious, but how did you learn to climb safely? Personally, i damn near killed myself for the first 2 years of climbing...there were no schools, guides or gyms to get even a smattering of help...just me and a buddy trying to figure stuff out... by and large, i think a higher percentage of todays beginner climbers are better prepared and have better access to help/guidance than those of 15 to 20 years ago...and i think its due to the gyms...

not bouldering...so what's your point, wank?

yerstillawank

may be able to make it w/ wife and kids...

COMPETING HERE...CLIMBING BEGINS THIS MORNING, I BELIEVE!

PUSHME

at least i ain't three feet high while on my knees! or three feet wide, ya f-ing tubbies...

on wednesday i eat 2 grapes...then i polish all of my quickdraws... Only on thursday do i eat blueberries... now go eat your bacon and wax your stix...

Can you ski fat? Y E S Can you climb fat? N O

have fun in the wet slop...

FUHHHHHHHHHHCKOFF Skiing is so stupid... CLIMBORDIEBITCHES!!! Oh wait...are you telling me you just did your laundry and it smells oh so freshie?? punterz

nuthin at all...couldn't leave the house...i was too scared since i couldn't find my helmet...

sportogeek...

well...let's see...its sunny, mid 70's, on a three day weekend, and i'm sitting in front of this computer...so, yup, i'm pissed...

Sorry Larry, didn't realize you were a yuppie. Can I have your rack when you're done with it? Hey...voodoo smack talker...i'm a yuppie...i climb with all the latest raddest stuff that i can buy from all of the slick mags, but only if i see the current climbing goddess/gods using it...feel free to try and take my rack and maybe you can show me how to climb sumpin...cuz i don't know how to climb very well...the gym doesn't offer any climbing classes beyond Advanced Gym Climbing...

yuppy = someone who's a motivated individual that's got their shit in gear and can hold down a job, raise a family, pay the mortgage, keep their car running and still find time to recreate and keep themselves fit...even if at times it feels like they can barely keep their nose out of the water Seems to me that this type of individual would make a better climbing partner and climber in general, than some dirtbag dipshit, don't ya think? If anything, free time is a hell of a lot more valuable to someone who doesn't have a lot free time and it tends to get utilized to the fullest... And that approach of climbers who have been climbing for a long time ripping new and beginning climbers just stinks of elitism...it sucks..."I started before you, therefore you are not dedicated as i am"??? WTF!! that's about as lame as it gets...if anything, beginning climbers aren't jaded asshole punters who think they are the shit sticking to the wall (I know a certain talkshow host who posts here that falls into that category)... We all began somewhere and were that "noob" that was laughed at...some of us chose to stick with the sport and others left it...get off your throne...you suck with that attitude

HA! Regarding me, you'd be surprised at how much fluid my fat rolls hold...plus we were talking about Greg anyway and he's a fat f-er...i'd bet he holds easily 10 quarts of venom...

no...greg is one part detergent, one part fabric softener, 2 parts blood, and one part vitriol and a small dash of gunpowder... this adds up to a flamin' rightwing snuggle bear...

or is it ms.?

espeshelley exstream spelling...

Thats your personal choice and everyone here respects it, I hope. I'm sure you do wear one when you are out climbing with your kids though.... They wear a helmet...i don't... Only on loose stuff do i wear one...its not to protect me from when i fall but to protect me from falling stuff...i also don't like climbing under other parties... the treatsie on accidents in the yosemite guidebook by don reid on serious trauma and fatalities said that for certain only 5 cases would a helmet have made a difference in falls...that was over 250 cases...his statement was that the amount of trauma (i'm paraphrasing here) was so high that a helmet wouldn't have amounted to much protection...look at the percentages... don't kid yourself...you fuck up, you're dead, helmet or not...best bet is don't fuck up...

i guess god has spoken... how 'bout this? except that i don't want to...

ok ok...i've been sitting here biting my tongue for a bit... There are cases where a helmet makes the difference, and there are also cases, where, you know what? it aint gonna do a flippin' thing...it also appears that a lot of people think that strapping one on will save their butt(head)...it might, but your best bet is to protect yourself in other ways... keeping your flickin leg out from behind the rope is about as important to not smashing your head as wearing a helmet is if you do land on it...i see so many people doing this it makes me sick... helmets are a personal choice...just as much so as how little or much gear you put in or if you solo...cavester phrased it well and i think that is what Timl is getting at too... for what its NOT worth, i don't wear one unless i'm in an area w/ rockfall...that is my choice...

yep...i know that...BUT you have to admit that there almost always is a one week period when every bush is loaded to the gills... it was about this time last year...i got enough berries for 5 pies in about an hour of pickin...

...been huckleberry picking in der hillz lately?? are they in yet?