whatever chuck...they topped out so that's hardly a need for "excuse spouting", eh, bitch?
of course, you and your superhero capabilities don't need no stinkin' topo, right? you too...
except if you allow the NPS to put in rulez than they will affect the "typical climber"...and that will equate to "more trouble for the rest of us, apparently"
there was a group that did it...they said that the ledge system right above the anchors still had the blocks and they asked if there was recent rockfall...