iain

The fact that a carabiner flat-out snapped in half leads me to believe that there is something strange afoot. Perhaps more will be revealed.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Dr. Flash Amazing new he had DFA = SK's new avatar

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: avitare You're not fooling anyone

your shell top smells so bad there's simply no way you could wear it for anything but climbing. you have ice axe gouges in your car's upholstery.

whoops, someone got in there first, hope I didn't repeat too much. sorry, I meant stratosphere in the above UV breakdown. CFC's migrate through the troposphere before they are subjected to UV bombardment. [ 10-02-2002, 10:19 AM: Message edited by: iain ]

Yeah, the ozone layer is supposedly self-regulating and as atomic chlorine, the limiting factor in the above, disappears, there should be an improvement. The problem is, CFC compounds are incredibly durable. They are not water-soluable, one of the reasons they were used in the first place to replace the extremely toxic refrigerants used before. I think the lifetime of CFC's in the troposphere can be around 40 years before they migrate into the stratosphere, where intense UV activity starts the production of free atomic chlorine (shifting the balance to O3 destruction). There are a bunch of factors that determine O3 saturation out there, such as sunspot activity, prevailing winds, seasonal changes, etc. so it's difficult to know if there is an overall improvement until you take a many-year sample. Which is apparently what they are now doing. Please correct me if I am wrong about the chem anyone, my last chem was a few semesters of Organic panic in college so it has been awhile.

"There's an old saying in Washington -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Washington...that says, smoot me once, shame on......shame on you. Smoot me...you can't get smooted again." [ 10-02-2002, 10:56 AM: Message edited by: iain ]

one of the few guides bothering to have the full UIAGM int'l certs. cheers. posts here periodically I think.

The depletion of the ozone layer by CFCs is caused by free Cl combining with O3 to form ClO and 1 O2. The big problem is, ClO, chlorine monoxide, will then react with free O radicals to form Cl and O2, and then you have atomic Chlorine free to start the cycle all over again. You can see the potential for exponential destruction of O3.

In the troposphere it is by ultraviolet radiation UV breaks up O2 into two separate atoms (free radicals), which combine with other O2 molecules to form ozone This is the same processe that destroys ozone, and subsequently protects us from UV radiation through this absorbtion of energy.

Where is that guy anyway? I remember him angrily defending his books on here a year or so ago. Can't comment on his washington stuff, but he presents a bit of an elitist (and at times misinformed) attitude in his cascade volcanoes book, in my opinion.

North Sister is an unworthy chosspile - Smoot

quote: Originally posted by fixedPin: Biner was broken on the stem near the large end. Looked like a pretty clean break. Other half is probably still below the route. First piece was found below the trail in the scree. That's some scary stuff right there. Odd that everything would pull due to that though, especially w/ that much rope out and on such a direct line.

I've found my Scarpa Denali XT's warmer than any plastic mountaineering boot I've worn before. Just a pain to do any kind of steep traversing on ice in AT boots. If it's a direct route on snow/ice, no problem, AT boots. Zero french technique in those things though.

That's D. Bonior of Michigan on the left

You've come to the wrong place. We only discuss how much we hate each other here.

The important thing is I got the last word in, even though I had nothing to do with it.

quote: Originally posted by E-rock: Sounds to me like someone was drunk, tried to get some play, and got shut down for being a drunken, misogynist pig. LOL

just the cinder cone no bach in sight

This be why I steer clear of pub clubs

quote: Originally posted by fern: just how 'heavy' a pack are you yo-yoing with? I didn't mean I yo-yo with heavy packs, but it is a pain when you de-skin up top each time to align your boot in the toe bail just right, bend down, etc, etc. rather than just step in. Or just get good at ripping the skins off w/o getting them powdered up w/o taking off skis. Had some good spills that way trying to keep skin dry while falling in powder, but eventually got it down.

I've heard of problems with the front part of the 555 not fitting some mountaineering boots. The big advantage is it is step-in. This may seem like a small thing but it becomes a big thing when you are wearing a heavy pack and you have to bend down to engage the 500 or 404 on a steeper slope (not a big deal on tours where you stay in for long times, but if you are yo-yoing it is a minor hassle). If looking for a step-in at, I'd take the diamirs over silvretta. For mountain boots, silvretta. Just some thoughts.

)pnally posted by thelawgoddess: quote: Originally posted by Necronomicon: Good luck finding a partner on this site, I'm convinced most people here do more spraying than climbing. PM your stats, maybe we can get it together. you *can* find partners here sometimes. trouble is, most of them that do climb already have partners. I've had some good trips climbing with people on here.

quote: Originally posted by Mr. Chips: do you guys have a topo or approach information on how to get to the real world? thanks It's miles of intolerable brush, not worth it.