sk

shred... I in no way think you are responsable for anything that happened. I asked anna that day if she was sure she wanted to lead... meaning I didn't think it was great idea. perhaps I should have been louder or said more, for that I am sorry.

I'm not sure how you could miss it... you all did forget to trail a rope on givlers... two pitches, three climbers I don't mean to be a bitch shred, but you should know better and if you don't you should climb with someone who does. you were, in my oppinion, the most experienced climber in that group. Just because people are louder than you doesn't make them better. [ 11-02-2002, 05:50 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

THAT IS SOOOOOO SICK!!!!!

jk's point is that this was, in our, experience not a one time thing. and yes I do and will continue to climb with anna. I just realy hope she learns from this and gets some books and learns to learn from the people arround her offering solid knowledge and experience. If you want to learn you can not tell people that you already know.

snowboy- I have met and climbed with anna many times and have gently tried to encourage her to get more knowledge... I even tried to encourage her to NOT lead that day. Not to be a bitch BUT I DO KNOW ANNA> jk and I have tried to teach her and help her many times. I told her that i would not go over there and climb with her and the others over there becuase i did not feel safe with any of there leading ability on climbs that I know to be more difficult than the rating. now I have to read the rest of your post. sk

necranomicon just scred me so bad I think I will stay home tomorrow tooo (good points btw) iain check your e-mail

two thing to remember folks... 1) you have to keep your wits about you when you climb. 2) there is a MAJOR difference between confidence and OVERCONFIDENCE. In order for all of this to work, for us to be a comuinty, for all of us to meet each other and climb and have rope ups and other fun things we all have to take personal responsability. We have to be honest with ourselves about our own ability levels and with our climbing partners. If we do not do this, this forum looses it's integraty and we don't get to do this any more... we will become like the dinasours. (I know integraty, what am I thinking? but realy almost everyone one I have met here has been solid and straight up about there skill level and what they are comfortable with. had it been or if it were to become the other way arround, i doubt I would be interested in posting here or climbing with those I met here. Your word is your bond and your honnor. I think even trask would agree with that. yes I know we joke arround alot and yes I am one of the worst, but when it comes to actualy climbing I hold it as my responsability to my self and my climbing partners to represent my ability and experience as honestly as possible)

I agree... and yet I am a total wimp climbing is one of those things that to excell at you have to be bold. I feel that boldness must be tempered with knowledge and experience, or you die.

my fault I forgot to log out after I posted

Oops... [ 11-02-2002, 03:01 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: quote:Originally posted by Anna: Hey Thanks for the reply Mister Chips...it took a lot of time to build up enough guts to post about how utterly stupid I was and now you have made me feel like shit. YOU have never made a wrong desicion in your life I guess. Many times we are in situations that we just wing it but I KNOW THAT IT WAS WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I felt good about climbing the route to start because of the difficulty rating and the fact that I had lead before, but I WAS WRONG.....it was a mistake! Be nice. Anna, As RuMR and others suggest, I wouldn't be too hard on yourself about what happened, as it was probably a result of your more experienced partners decision to put you on the sharp end. That route ain't 5.4 Shit happens, people make bad calls, if you live through it you come out wiser climber. bottom line, you can not teach someone who is unwilling to learn or advise someone who will not listen.

"give me liberty or give me death"

skiing sucks

hey AK is that like the old... "i'm rubber your glue..."?

even if I could remember, I wouldn't tell wooohooooo look at that, two in one day PAGETOP!! suckas [ 10-30-2002, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

Can't call it yet... anyone else want to chime in here??? Besides I want to climb at the gym first, was hopping for more like 8 to pub. RYLAND??????? ARE YOU OUT THERE?????

quote: Originally posted by fern: when I was at the Big O the waitress grabbed my friend's (he is half asian) face and said things such as "are you sure which border you came across?" and "we didn't have to let all you canadians in". and when he told her that she was being offensive she said "no it's all rightm most of our kitchen staff are mexican". Quality establishment Have NO idea what the big O is... Just went to truck stops up and down I-5 with my grandnad when I was a kid... he was a truck driver origianly from the south... Iain, you know I can't spell

quote: Originally posted by bobinc: Ruthless competition from KK has driven the last 2 Dunkin' Donuts out of business in WA. They have remained strong elsewhere, however. Muffy -- you are lucky to live near the Keystone. I know

YEAH!!!!!! What TEX said

quote: Originally posted by iain: you're the one drinking something called café au lait and finding sexual innuendos in donuts. I recommend therapy, or at least check out the san francisco apartment market. Iain 's Damn, that was good.... [ 10-30-2002, 01:41 PM: Message edited by: Muffy The Wanker Sprayer ]

Breakfast is the most important part of the day... I have two favorites... 1) Biscettes and gravey with a side of french toast 2) Powerhouse (potatoes tofu peppers onions cheese salsa) and brown bran bread. Coffe is an artificial sorce of energy... you realy shouldn't drink it

Any one want to be there???? and where? climb first????

ISO belay slave for supper easy bummper belay sport climbs for the weekend of nov. 9th - 11th If interested please post here or pm. Lable to "gumby girl" thanks sk

quote: Originally posted by trask: Sweet! I hear she's a party animal. Does that mean you will finaly show your mug or what??

I believe, if rummors are correct, we may have some Canadians there as well SK will be there for SURE