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that is RICH LOL Scarry to me that Trask looks less likely to go to jail on paper than I do

okay... so it is a short smith climb.... it looks longer when you are standing on the ledge just below the first bolt with your legs doing an Elvis impersonation. IMHO that is not a beginner climb...just because of the scrambeling and the pain potentioal if you fall between the first and second bolt. just goes to show that because you can do the moves does not make you an experienced climber. I hope that girl is okay.

to climb ginger snap you have to scramble up like 20 or 30 feet of jaggedy scetchy rock just to get to the first bolt, and from there if I remember corectly it is a fair smith climb in length....

dang I had the flu and barely got out of bed... I thought I was a hard woman

AK I don't think the Ents would have a problem with you you are more of a tree caretaker than a tree destroyer

all of those things sound to me like they would do some damage to the shoes them selves... I hate stinky feet as much as the next girl, but hate socks and climbing MORE... learn to live with it would be my best advice. also :try to open your shoes up as much as possible when you are not wearing them :don't keep them in a closed bag or back pack EVER :don't leave them in the trunk maybe it is time for new shoes

GREAT TOPIC!!! keep in mind I am not a great climber... this is how it stacks up for me: I climb comfortably at 5.9 sport and trad = NO FALLS (most of the time;)) ON TOP ROPE I lead comfortably at 5.7 sport lead comfortably on a known climb 5.6/5.7 trad I can top rope a 5.10 cack with falls/not sport though I have mostly followed or top roped cracks, that is my personal preference so I feel like I climb those better. Whoever said that if you can't lead what you can top rope, than you need to work on your mental game is exactly right, because it is my head, not the inability to do moves that is in my way as far as leading trad and sport at a higher level

MEEEE TTTOOOOO!!!!!

It is my experience and how I was taught that that we do not tie into both ends of the rope to TOP ROPE, or to lead SHORT (known) single pitch climbs. But on longer, unknown, or multipich climbs, we tie into both ends.

it's easy and it's fun everyone can give a little jon and tim RULE!!!

I would be more than happy to supply you with the name address e-mail and web site for our local eugene shop. They would love to have your business and I will even give you mine and my husbands names so that you can tell them who sent you. I asure you, they are good climbers, and helpful and wonderful people. I am unsure if they carry ice tools, but if you are interested I will find out for you. Eugene is only two hours away.

that woman is lucky to be alive! that area (ginger snap) scares the crap out of me because the potential for a "death fall" even on belay.

you must be going to the wrong "local" store then. cuse here our local store is GREAT! the owner is realy nice and the guys who work there even let my kids play with the cams and stuff while we shop. they also are full of info about local climbing places, ethics and even have climbed with us from time to time. They are truely good folks who love what they do. too bad for you

I gladly ropegun for JK he just has to clip the first bolt and climb 5.7 winter goals: get stronger improve indurance climb ice for the fist time snow board or ski for the first time

it's none of my business how any one shops... you can spend your cash any way you want... I am just pointing out that there are consequences to every action. When you shop overseas on line, americans are loosing jobs.

LMAO

oh so true! you could order from europe and save a bundle, but then when the ONLY gear shops that are left in the states are REI and GI joes, I don't want to hear you complaining

what do the stars mean any way??? that some one likes you??/ or is it conected to how many posts you have??/ whats the deal? besides I'M a 10 not a 5 ( i'm so joking in case you missed that )

I know I just couldn't help myself GOOD LUCK on the job search!!! And have fun!!!

I think you should get a job as SANTA at a mall for the season!!!

lucky devil!!!! have one for me

sounds most groovey!!!! but when we go we will have to check with Castle Timm@y to see if they are accepting patrons

don't tease me with the hot tub thing!!! that sounds SOOOOOOOOOO nice and relaxing things have been tooo quiet today glad to see peeps filtering back Thanks BIG D!!!! we enjoy you as well

icegirl and TLG thak you for the help!!! I am now a Quoting fool

muffy needs no silly spell check it adds to my individual creativity and forces people to TRY to understand me it is all part of my plan for world domination