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He's not available, he's pretty darned married.

Prole, that was a good Krugman editorial, I read it earlier today and thought of this thread. The easy summary for those of you who won't read that many words: Budget cutting and austerity measures have been proven to fail at turning around unemployment, which in turn leads to continuing economic decline. See: Portugal, Ireland, England.

Indeed, and great to get information straight from the FA.

Pig fat is tasty eating, but you might be stretching the definition of "good" in that statement.

No Bill, you don't understand, there's a rising tide of the silent majority who appreciates his posts and tells him so. Chirp, you're buying into Raindawg's myth by thinking its youthful hubris that is shouting him down. There is no gym/sport hive mind element here, and many of the Dawg's opponents are his peers who decry his one note intolerance, his insistence that climbing is only one thing, and the one thing that he defines to boot. Do you honestly believe, that Gene, Rad, Bill, RumR, or even Choada are uncaring despoilers of wilderness utterly devoid of ethics? You can't define any of those guys as "just" sport climbers. Take a look at the youth here. Marc is all over the map, a strong climber who's come a long ways from the blue jeans clad Cheam range snow slogger he once was, Keenwash may boulder along Hwy 2, but he's saving up for Patagonia, Rockparrotlet has a great tick list in that Climbers Board thread and he's gleaning anything he can from his elders, Josh Lewis has moved from a hiker with aspirations to a young man with developing alpinist skills. These aren't the droids you're talking about, you're just talking about the strawman Raindawg stood up to justify his belief that kids today just don't measure up to the high standards of his youth. Its an old song sung by generation after generation, a lament you can find in ancient Greek literature, and it's just not true. If you ask me, the kids are alright.

Ho man, the progressive physical decay is surreal!

Hah, you've just gotta love all the thumbs up for "Pants Down." Points to Telemarker for answering his own question and sharing it with us.

I misunderstood, I thought this was about those Sea Gals... In that article about Sheriff Joe Arsehole in Phoenix using a tank to take out an unarmed guys house, I particularly like that they saved those roosters by euthanizing them all. I'm sure there was no decision to use a tank just for Seagal's television show.

Quelle Surprise!

On hold at the library, looking forward to it.

Yeah, he probably gets credit on the frontispiece too.

Because I think I found the perfect book for a birthday gift.

The ability to make short people standing next to you look tall is not a superpower.

I'm with Rad. Gadd's assessment is pretty spot on, and while new gear makes things easier and safer, I don't think it changes the fundamental rule of ice climbing from way back: don't fall. I really appreciate his advice: don't climb pumped, and if you're getting shaky, clip into your tool and hang while you place a screw. Don't be falling for style points, this isn't your new project at Rifle. Does that old rule not apply to the bolted overhanging mixed sport climbing thing though?

Aww, now that's just about the funniest thing I've seen all day, and a bit of really clever commentary on private property masquerading as public space, malls and such. A sexysaxman sighting out in the world would just really crack me up.

Fossil is not a simple place for top roping, though there are some moderate routes with decent protection you could lead. You might check out Exit 38, and certainly Leavenworth is a classic learning area. Royal Columns has good moderates as well, but you need to have your act together to set top ropes without killing yourself or the people below you.

I'm afraid the little one's name is Meat.

video link My sheep, baby

Nice pics to put back too, thanks for hosting them here.

That's really impressive Rudy, I'm glad you guys are getting out and having fun.

Right on John, glad you're back safe & sound too.

I'm pleased to note that the March TR contest is having the desired side effect of dramatically increasing the amount of entertaining climbing related content, along with some really nice photos. Spending less time in Spray can improve your overall CC.com experience

Yeah, I recall thinking that climbing out of a boat would be cool, until we did Bass-O-Matic (a swell 5.9 crack) at Banks. Anchor at the base for the rental boat was a crappy #1 Friend that came loose several times, jet skis in the channel created waves that clonked the boat against the rock constantly, gotta keep extra slack in the system so boat movement doesn't put unwelcome tension on the rope, and if perchance you fall and rip gear you're not going to plunge into the water, you're going to land in the damned boat. To cap it off, while David Whitelaw did include the water routes in his Washington Weekend Rock guidebook, and even did a photo shoot on this route, he didn't bother replacing the 30 year old rusty quarter inch anchors, and I didn't have a kit along. Still, it was a fun route. [img:left]http://www.washingtonclimbers.org/Climbing/banks.jpg[/img] David Whitelaw photo shameless pilfered from the Washington Climbers website

I like that this follows immediately on the heels of Matt's vow to quit marrying crazy women.

We're not done with the last two wars yet, and you wanna start in with another one? You and what army?