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Well, given that earlier encounters with the miscreants, as well as overall profile for this scam conducted all over the west, suggests that the organizing principle might be the Russian mob rather than a few individual meth heads, it might be a bigger thing than one might want to mess with too personally. I didn't get the impression it was all that fun being Buford Pusser.

Hah, I'm reminded of their classic cover with Tom Jones on vocals: "I'm left, you're right, she's gone." Uh, not that I'm trying to make this a political thread

All mixed up on Winamp for a day in the office: The Bellrays, Wire, The Briefs, Elastica, Spoon, The Gits, Deathray Davies, Watts, The Hold Steady, Mountain Goats, Reigning Sound, Hater, Diplomats of Solid Sound, Hazel, Tender Trap, Fugazi, and Stan Ridgeway.

Actually, it's "a rich person got a deal?" Do you think Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, Rupert Murdoch, or Michael Bloomberg don't get deals on huge loans also?

Heh, dare I point out that this is completely traditional? I'll bet you my monthly dole check that Don Whillan's grandpa didn't think to much of the damn racket his grandson listened to or his whack and dangle shenanigans.

Technically correct (from Wikipedia): and So, maybe yes, maybe no. There are a lot of factors at play, both nationally and across the world. I think it's a given that a lot of things are changing, a situation that tends to feed both fear and greed.

I think they've declared the whole Northrup Canyon no camping. Don't go to Steamboat Rock State Park either, not only is it usually booked up, it's a closely packed RV wasteland. Jones Bay, just past Highway Rock, is the ticket. There are sites by the boat ramp, but my faves are out the penninsula, taking the second entry. No reservations, but I haven't been shut out yet. It does cost though. Precast shitters are not bad at all. No water, so bring your own to camp.

It's pretty funny where the 14 year old gym rats are harshing on your other videos.

Please see the existing threads in the Rock Climbing Forum.

Oh you betcha, thought you were gone for the day, glad to hear you'll be out. Hopefully the Logcabinfish will be out with his spawn as well. If I'm not there when you arrive, come drag me out of the office.

Thanks for all the work JH.....I would agree with the helmets.....but would take that a step further and say you should wear your helmets anytime you climb. ANYWHERE should you put your name on it too? I dunno, maybe you should ask a, uhm, mountie?

If you were ever a Dead Moon fan, you can check out Fred & Toody's current project Pierced Arrows at the Funhouse on July 12th. I'd heartily recommend it, but I love that grimy old style proto punk stuff. link to band site

Sounds like a pretty perfect outing, thanks for the story.

Yes, John Roper the climber is a regional legend to anyone who's paying attention in the Cascades, but is/was he a group health physician as well? That's the real question here.

All the best to you two. You're a good egg Carolyn.

Whats the matter, you guys can't find any high fashion softcore porn on the web? Geez, I guess you all suck at teh internets.

Not without permission you don't.

I'd guess the volunteer work is a good thing, since the FS would just as soon abandon this road. I don't know if there are people in the hunting community that use this access as well who would be interested in working on it or not, their time is later in the year so they may not be as motivated or even aware of the potential for closure. Many thanks to you folks who worked so hard on this. Who says there are no heroes anymore?

There's a better alternative to the grovel gravel finish (in common with assorted NE Buttress routes). When you hit the arcing sandy ledge just below the top, like a giant smile of a ledge, instead of heading off the right side into what you know will be total crap, go left up some big blocks and through a notch, casual 4th or low fifth, and you pop over and down to a small tree with a rap sling. Two or three raps with a single 60m get you down.

Huh, and I thought Scott had it in for the Boyscouts Of America. You need to check out the tune "I Hate Banks" by Mojo Nixon. And I ain't none too fond of the cable teevee company neither. Bill, you're talking climbing in a spray thread! We all wish you had a camera this weekend too.

Just for a walking tour, though I did a number of things back that way last summer. There's some really good climbing back in there. Err, I mean poison ivy ridden choss heaps, but good if you like that kind of stuff.

Oh, and in his favor, I've got to say Trad_Guy is uniter, not a divider, bringing together cc.commies from across the political & climbing spectrum. Bravo!

Choada Boy, you forgot: Trad_Guy n00b 32 posts

Nope, not on a classic alpine route of this nature that gets this much traffic.

Yeah, spray it is.