Greg_W

An excellent question, Greg. Is this money to be used for security and rebuilding Iraq's oil infrastructure in leiu of future repayment? If so, fine. I'd certainly like to see the long range plan though. Here's what will probably happen: Bush will get this loan, somehow; he'll entice all the big international construction companies to invest and go re-build the oil infrastructure. Things will go great for awhile; the construction concerns will be lured in with long-term management contracts with good money for good production. We'll all skip along nice and happy for 10 or 15 years. Then, all of a sudden, the "new, friendly Iraqi government" will decide it is better for "the people" if the oil industry was nationalized. BOOM!!! Out go the Americans and their long-term contracts, agreements, etc. "Thank you very much, don't let the tent flap hit you in the ass as you leave our country." That is what happened in Saudi Arabia back in the 70's. This spells trouble with a capital 'T'. In another note, however, I think Howard Dean has much to learn before he can start spewing about what is going on in Washington. Like us, he doesn't have all the information. Greg_W

No shit. I don't like it, not one bit. Besides, who's he borrowing it from? This money should come from oil revenue from Iraq, or we should get free oil from Iraq to cover the amount, or something. Money doesn't grow on fucking trees; we work our asses off for it.

Well, sure, when you were recuperating from that clandestine op in Rwanda; it's not your fault you got malaria. Oh, was I supposed to keep that under wraps? Sorry.

Hey, dipshit with the long-ass name, nobody said Bush was "ignoring the citizens of the USA" or not spending money on roads or education (of which, there is not Constitutional justification to spend shit on education, this is a state matter). If you remember, the action taken in Iraq was done with a "coalition"; if I'm not mistaken, Bush is calling on other coalition members to pony up. Nothing wrong with that. As far as the UN goes, they can get fucked; however, they do have several uses when it comes to delivering aid, medicine, etc. to these war-torn areas. Further, I don't see this as a purely "Vietnam-esque" escapade; more like another Marshall Plan. The thing that pisses me off, here, is that originally the oil field revenue from Iraq was supposed to go towards recovering OUR war expenditures AND THEN go to the people of Iraq. What are the plans for recouping this mysterious $87b? Greg_W

Paul-ine; Who the fuck are you to be lord of who is respectable? Do you know everyone? Just have the girl show, and let her make up her own mind. If I recall correctly, it worked for maryk. Trask ALWAYS comes to Pub Club, just because you don't see him doesn't mean shit.

Beck, you're dumber than a room full of retards. You really don't seem to understand that it's not so much what you do as how you do it. You 'organize' beckfest. We bitch because you take Ropeup and make it BeckFest. But who cares what the cc.comers think, after all, it's their party! You boast about your office, great view, and free beer. It's called arrogance. Not 'posting'. Shows that you're so insecure that you have to boast about penis size. That's right. LAME! You get the de-forest service and the rest of the government 'cooperating' in Leavenworth. And how has gov't influence ever helped climbers? Hello? You sucked the mayor's dick, and he bought you some piece of shit g5. You brag about it. Then you wonder why we call you a loser. See above comment. LAME! Now you suck the 'luit govenor's' dick and brag some more. It's not just me; this exposes just how pathetic you really are. Beck, your mommy must never have explained to you the concept of a braggart and a blowhard. Look it up in the dictionary. There's a photo of you as the definition. You think bragging makes you cool? That it'll win you friends? That people look up to you? Sorry. This drivel makes you lower than the shit people wipe of their boots. The lowest of the low. You're not trolling. Your pathetic personality and incredibly low self-esteem are showing. Try to cover them up with alcohol...it didn't work before. Just once more, in case you didn't get it: YOU SUCK! LOSER! Um, I'm a little confused here. WHAT, exactly, are you trying to say, Sphinx?

This is the worst possible advice I've ever read on this board. You should be horsewhipped, climbing [backwards]

Double the reason for me to attend.

Me too. Maybe we should work security at BeckFest.

Loud, shiny, and ridden by men in leather and sunglasses? Uh, that may fall within the realm of sharing too much. my dick is a Harley, ya kick it to start Didn't get enough of getting kicked in the balls in grammar school?

Loud, shiny, and ridden by men in leather and sunglasses? Uh, that may fall within the realm of sharing too much.

Probably too much chicken, hamburgers, bacon and eggs, and not enough healthy soup.

Is DFA going to show and give a clinic on how to avoid crotch rot and yeast infection while 'projecting' a climb in spandex?

One, that you're way poorer (and lonelier) than your standard college student. Two, you're a prime candidate to start drinking alone. Three, it's a sign from above that a certain baby orca IS the uber-man you've been looking for all your life. Bwahahahahahaha!!!!!!

I wonder if someone has a secret list of those who voted and all 'tool' voters will be denied entrance to BeckFest.

Good question, veggie!!!

"nope, I'm not gonna say it...." Good idea...but don't be so humble, sensei.

Seems like this could establish some bad first impressions for an individual who wants to get into climbing; especially with the background that Nicole claims to have. I still advocate this website as a good place to meet people and learn. Many people on this site have taught me A LOT.

...discuss.

Good points all, Matt. Further, on this board there is a way to check people out before you climb with them through third parties on this site. as an "official third party reviewer"...don't ever go out on the crag w/ Greg_W...sketchy sketchy...russian roulette... You may be joking, Rudy, but I am serious. How do you know the skills of some plastic puller you meet at the gym? I've had potential partners check me out through others, to make sure I am what I say I am. A smart move, if you ask me; especially being a chic.

Best thing to do. Whatever you do, stay away from the Moutaineers Yeah, but where else will she learn to tie a one-handed bowline.... I could teach her in about 5 minutes...anything to keep her away from the herd mentality and the needy.

I'm throwing away all my VHS tapes of "21 Jump Street" for sure, now.

She's looking for different ropework than you have expertise in, buddy.

Good points all, Matt. Further, on this board there is a way to check people out before you climb with them through third parties on this site.

Good. Fuck you.