Greg_W

C'mon, I don't believe THAT. EVERYONE knows that a Louisville Slugger (nicely end-weighted) is the preferred method for dispatching harp seals. You don't ruin any valuable skin this way. You're just being wasteful.

Oh, what are you saying? You want a piece of me? COME ON!! Any day, biatch!!!!!!!!! Oh, don't be thinking that just because you're a young sprout that you can take me. I can run pretty fast AND scream real loud, you know.

Yes. And Inflation? Isn't it inflationary to increase the money supply? There are shifts and changes as the supply of money changes, these are natural. What is unnatural is the way the Fed chases the inflation rate to artificially keep it low or high - let the market tend itself and everyone will be much happier in the long run.

I'm just giving the people what they want. Don't shoot the messenger, bro. I didn't attack him, per se. I offered him up for sacrifice...it's a fine line, I know. Brief editorial comment: I like RobBob, but someone has to take the mantle today.

There is no other way to summit, unless you can face climb in the hard 5.10's covered in lichen for 30' with no pro and probable death or certain maiming if you fall.

Oh, what are you saying? You want a piece of me? COME ON!!

You can sew a line up no problem and eliminate rope drag if you use runners in the correct manner. You know this though, and for your first lead in an alpine setting, sewing it up is not a bad thing. NO IT'S NOT!!! HATE...ARGUE...SPEW HATE...ARGUE...

Not really sure if this is a troll, but I think this is a myopic view. Nation-building and empire-building are two entirely different things. If we wanted a 51st state, why not just take Peurto Rico or Guam? We already have both of those on the hook. This is a silly viewpoint and not one based in fact or logic.

Robbob has volunteered to bet bashed on today, so have at it... I'll start: WANKER!!!! Things are so much more enjoyable when it's properly organized. Enjoy bashing Robbob today, we'll have another volunteer tomorrow. Greg_W

Are you volunteering your carcass today?

No, Scot, it's not; takes too much time, creates ropedrag, drains energy. None of which is good in an alpine environment. That said, good job Dryad; the more you do, the more you learn. On this whole "I'm a faggot badass 'cause I climb 5.9 in boots" bullshit, I move faster in climbing shoes because my footing is more solid (better feel, sticky rubber); speed is good on alpine climbs.

If this happens, it's just Halliburton et al doing business; they don't write the contracts or the bid requests. Many government projects leave themselves open for change orders and extras, or they are written as "cost plus" This means that the contract amount is the cost of the work PLUS a fee. So, if Joe Shmoe says it should cost him $10b to build an oil refinery and it ends up costing him $20b, and he has backup for all his bills, he gets the $20b. Not a good way to write contracts when it's taxpayer's money; I say, require hard bids and expect contractors to hold to them.

Greg, you should try for an appointment as a foreign diplomat under the Bush administration. You have such a flair for words. And so persuasive too. Ah, the every moronic catbirdseat. Thanks for not disappointing with your typical mindless drivel. Boy, that was a good one. Did you have help thinking that one up?

Don't forget the gravy.

Uh oh, he'll bitchslap you for that one. yup he's a dead man "Dead man walking..." Poor guy, his friends spoke highly of him.

Uh oh, he'll bitchslap you for that one.

Eat me, Dwayner, you aging fuck.

from web page What the fuck is that all about? So some dude took the big ride. Do we have to put up plaques and shit? That's worse than the bolts themselves. I could understand some shmoe carving some lame rock and putting it at the base of some chossy shitty crag where some joker killed himself due to his own inexperience, but this takes the cake.

An excellent question, Greg. Is this money to be used for security and rebuilding Iraq's oil infrastructure in leiu of future repayment? If so, fine. I'd certainly like to see the long range plan though. Here's what will probably happen: Bush will get this loan, somehow; he'll entice all the big international construction companies to invest and go re-build the oil infrastructure. Things will go great for awhile; the construction concerns will be lured in with long-term management contracts with good money for good production. We'll all skip along nice and happy for 10 or 15 years. Then, all of a sudden, the "new, friendly Iraqi government" will decide it is better for "the people" if the oil industry was nationalized. BOOM!!! Out go the Americans and their long-term contracts, agreements, etc. "Thank you very much, don't let the tent flap hit you in the ass as you leave our country." That is what happened in Saudi Arabia back in the 70's. This spells trouble with a capital 'T'. In another note, however, I think Howard Dean has much to learn before he can start spewing about what is going on in Washington. Like us, he doesn't have all the information. Greg_W

No shit. I don't like it, not one bit. Besides, who's he borrowing it from? This money should come from oil revenue from Iraq, or we should get free oil from Iraq to cover the amount, or something. Money doesn't grow on fucking trees; we work our asses off for it.

Well, sure, when you were recuperating from that clandestine op in Rwanda; it's not your fault you got malaria. Oh, was I supposed to keep that under wraps? Sorry.

Hey, dipshit with the long-ass name, nobody said Bush was "ignoring the citizens of the USA" or not spending money on roads or education (of which, there is not Constitutional justification to spend shit on education, this is a state matter). If you remember, the action taken in Iraq was done with a "coalition"; if I'm not mistaken, Bush is calling on other coalition members to pony up. Nothing wrong with that. As far as the UN goes, they can get fucked; however, they do have several uses when it comes to delivering aid, medicine, etc. to these war-torn areas. Further, I don't see this as a purely "Vietnam-esque" escapade; more like another Marshall Plan. The thing that pisses me off, here, is that originally the oil field revenue from Iraq was supposed to go towards recovering OUR war expenditures AND THEN go to the people of Iraq. What are the plans for recouping this mysterious $87b? Greg_W

Paul-ine; Who the fuck are you to be lord of who is respectable? Do you know everyone? Just have the girl show, and let her make up her own mind. If I recall correctly, it worked for maryk. Trask ALWAYS comes to Pub Club, just because you don't see him doesn't mean shit.

Beck, you're dumber than a room full of retards. You really don't seem to understand that it's not so much what you do as how you do it. You 'organize' beckfest. We bitch because you take Ropeup and make it BeckFest. But who cares what the cc.comers think, after all, it's their party! You boast about your office, great view, and free beer. It's called arrogance. Not 'posting'. Shows that you're so insecure that you have to boast about penis size. That's right. LAME! You get the de-forest service and the rest of the government 'cooperating' in Leavenworth. And how has gov't influence ever helped climbers? Hello? You sucked the mayor's dick, and he bought you some piece of shit g5. You brag about it. Then you wonder why we call you a loser. See above comment. LAME! Now you suck the 'luit govenor's' dick and brag some more. It's not just me; this exposes just how pathetic you really are. Beck, your mommy must never have explained to you the concept of a braggart and a blowhard. Look it up in the dictionary. There's a photo of you as the definition. You think bragging makes you cool? That it'll win you friends? That people look up to you? Sorry. This drivel makes you lower than the shit people wipe of their boots. The lowest of the low. You're not trolling. Your pathetic personality and incredibly low self-esteem are showing. Try to cover them up with alcohol...it didn't work before. Just once more, in case you didn't get it: YOU SUCK! LOSER! Um, I'm a little confused here. WHAT, exactly, are you trying to say, Sphinx?

This is the worst possible advice I've ever read on this board. You should be horsewhipped, climbing [backwards]