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David Parker and I climbed the North Face on Friday; met skisports and partner. It was fun - my first ice climbing experience. Thanks to David for letting me lead the final pitch to the top. Sweet weather and nice views. Perfect day. FINALLY I GET A FUCKING PAGE TOP - FIRST OF '03!

What about the "hated"? Trask, what you doing on line so early in the morning? The Christy Canyons marathon on the Spice channel over?

Nutty? NUTTY? Well, Matt, I am shocked that you feel this way. I had no idea.

I'm beginning to agree with you, Tex. It may be due to the fact that nobody's climbing anything lately.

People seem to rave about this Seam Grip stuff.

Wear short sleeves and quadruple your available memory!!!

Might get in trouble if I tried that one out.

No, I remember a time when you were acting all nice to people for a few days. That was fucking flaky, if you ask me.

I'll stick up for TLG, she's pretty cool. Aren't we all a bit flaky at times? TLG - is "your other store" for adults only? Do tell?

ATTENTION MODERATORS/ADMINISTRATORS: MtnGoat has stolen Trask's password!!!

Charlie, the best advice I can give is to stop climbing and sell me all your gear cheap. Seriously, I think it takes a little time and some leads on climbs below your regular grade.

I know you're a cynical fuck like me, j_b, but I think that GW is popular because he resonated with a large portion of the people. "Media Darling"?? I hardly think so; I remember the talking heads bashing his speaking abilities, mannerisms, etc., running all the stories about his drinking, drugs, his being stupid. Why didn't they run any stories about Al Gore being an idiot? Why didn't they trot out his outrageous claims to eliminate the internal combustion engine? That's bias.

Yeah, Hitler commissioned the Volkswagen. Without a humanitarian like Adolf, what would all you dirty hippies drive?

I can leave that on when I climb? I never knew. Thanks.

Sorry, dude. Just delete that one about the leather boots and biker outfit. Sorry again.

Los Angeles Times, Chicago Sun Times, Washington Post to name a few major liberal rags.

DFA has two stars 'cause he's a dick. No mystery there.

Do they need someone with project management skills? 'Cause my job may not have started up by then.

Truth and Elvis have left the building...

Matt - I agree with your original "propaganda" premise. That is why I don't watch the television news or get news from the newspapers; I find what I need newswise on the internet.

So, Jim, you're trying to tell me that the Seattle Times/PI is a conservative newspaper? Give me a fucking break. Subscribe to a conservative news website for a month and then wonder why the mainstream/liberal media doesn't run the same stories. Shouldn't you be out hugging salmon or something?

Okay, Matt, I'll take a shot. Regarding the above quote, these two individuals were not vilified for just criticizing the Administration's rhetoric. They were vilified for the extremeness of their actions AND their words. Patty Murray calling Saddam a humanitarian? What the fuck? Sean Penn visiting leaders of a country obviously at odds with his home country and not realizing that they would use it for propaganda purposes? What the fuck? Stupid words and actions. Watch the sunday morning news shows and other shows that have round table discussions. It seems like Demos from Congress are always holding press conferences to tell the world that they think Bush is an idiot. Here's another example: Trent Lott's statement at Strom Thurmond's birthday party. Why didn't anyone come out to give some balance to the attacks that were made on Lott for what he said? Another thing: these talking heads on the major networks aren't going to do anything that would jeopardize their access to the heavy hitters in Washington, D.C. - they are sellout whores.

Matt, I think the mainstream media IS liberal. But more than that they are whores who thirst for sensationalism to get ratings. News is no longer news, it is an entertainment business and a political arm of the Democrats and liberals.

Sounds wrong, dude.

I don't know, Matt. I would say that the "opposing viewpoint" you are looking for would be in the form of editorials; which probably do NOT appear in state-run press vehicles. The mass media outlets report what the White House has to say is because that is who is making news. I know that the liberal media isn't championing the Bush Administration's platform; that is what a state-run press/propaganda machine does. Watch FoxNews for balance.