Gary_Yngve

Thanks for the report. I love Glacier Peak.

Yes -- it's 28-105. Looks to be an awesome camera.

http://www.betterbridge.org/ has lots of details on a SR520 Pacific Interchange proposal. Dunno if it's the same one the newspaper is talking about.

I'm at the UW gym. I tried the chain yesterday, and it worked great. It doesn't shift around, and the strength difference needed to pull a move is noticeable. Thanks for the cautions about tendons. I've never pulled one, and I'd like to keep it that way, considering I rely on my fingers for typing, cello, and climbing.

It's usually cooler outside than in the gym. And if I don't go with a pack, I'm still carrying a rack. I don't want to take a trad rack to the gym to go climbing.

A pack can interfere with movement and results in a lot more sweaty nastiness.

I decided that I'm cheating myself by climbing in the gym with just shoes and harness, when in the mountains I also have helmet, rack, and possibly food/water/pack. I went to Big5 Sporting Goods to see if they had a weight belt available, but they just had ankle and wrist weights. So I went to the hardware store and bought three feet of half-inch steel chain (cost me $13 -- it was the cheapest option I could find). Not sure how heavy it is -- I'm guessing about 10 pounds. I'll weigh it sometime. I can clip the chain into a loop with a locker to make a secure belt for when I'm gymclimbing. I'll let yall know how it goes.

I thought the line up Outerspace was the punchline until some people got talked down.

Thanks for the cool TR!

SmallShoes, Iain caught me using "ad hominem" as a noun, whereas its original use was as an adjective. But thankfully English has been bastardized enough that it's acceptable to be used as a noun. This tangent happened in a TR, so I pulled it out here.

You're good at rhyming the rime.

Iain, http://www.answers.com/ad+hominem&r=67 "Ad hominem" can be used as a noun too (see halfway down the Usage section).

That's right, if you're ever getting flamed too hard and need a distraction to turn down the heat, drop me a PM! I'll assess how bad things are and give you my fee, usually in the range of 2-3 beers. I guarantee results or your beers back!

Hawkeye69, apparently you don't possess the third-grade reading comprehension to understand that I was criticizing the first poster for blaming his epic on other people. I did not blame my epic several years ago on anyone else, and I am not criticizing him getting in an epic. I am criticizing him for putting the blame, which should solely be his own, on others. You don't need to bother responding. I already know what you'll say.

Hawkeye69, first of all, I don't think you're a lurker. I think you're yet another avatar of some tool whom I've already ignored. It's up to you to prove me otherwise. Second, why the hell do you need to jump in on the "pick on gary" game? I'm sick and tired of it. Your attacks are tangential and unprovoked. It seems every time I decide to give this forum another chance, another jackass avatar has to step up to the plate to hassle me.

Wow, hawkeye69, in just your first four posts, you've managed quite a bit of vitriol, plenty of misspelled cusswords, and a subtle chestbeat of climbing the Salathe in a day. Congratulations, you'll fit in here just fine.

I didn't blame my epic there on anyone else. That's where the first poster of this thread has gone wrong. It's their own damn fault they didn't bring a headlamp, so they need to suck it up, take some responsibility for their actions, and not blame the slow people in front of them.

I'll chime in with some pictures:

Sounds like you were over your head and clueless on how to move fast on the descent, you mofo.

I climb the first 15-20 fee mostly on faceholds but stay in the corner. My first two pieces are blue and green aliens. There's really only one or two widish moves to end the climb. You're standing on a ledge where you can place a #4 friend, and then about 10 feet above the ledge to the left is a huge jug.

There's a .5 Camalot about 20 feet above the belay in the crack to the left on pitch 3 of Davis-Holland. All four lobes are moving -- in fact, the cam is not overcammed. The problem is that it's in so deep that I need to stick my fingers into the crack just so my nuttool can reach the trigger. So you'll need to bring your own hanger/wire contraption, and a headlamp may be nice. Rearding D-H/LA, the 1st pitch is wet inside the crack for the middle third of the pitch, but still plenty climbable -- just protected it with nuts instead of cams. The 4th pitch is dry, including the stemming chimney.

Mike, thank Steve for the pictures. He does our entire graphical layout and web stuff.

I saw BodyWorld a few years ago in LA. Incredible experience. http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/s...true#Post381785

Why aren't they wearing leather gloves?

Thanks for the heads-up on WD-40. I've never been screwed by it (nor have some folks I know who've been climbing since before I was born), but I do have a bottle of Metolius lube that came with a set of TCUs a few years ago buried somewhere...