Bug

Yeah. They should have waterboarded him instead. So much more humane.

Fuck! I knew it. Obama is a terrorist! After all, the US is the REAL terrorist, and these ILLEGAL wars are really terrorist operations, and Obama is just going to continue them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obviously, you were sleeping through that part of history as most good republicans did. al Quaida attacked us on 9/11. Their leaders were in Afganistan. Iraq did not attack us. al Quaida leaders were not in Iraq when we attacked. Get it now? Of course not. Because then you would have to admit that you fell for a big lie and were as wrong as you could be. But you do not have the huevos to admit that.

Hmm. It used to be there. Anyway, Google it. The laws making hemp illegal were passed at almost the same time that Dupont filed a patent for nylon.

That's disgusting. Why would you want to climb?

Go to http://norml.org/ and look at their history section. The politics of hemp are twisted.

In an interview with Barbara Walters last night, Obama said that there are still al Quaida training camps in parts of Afganistan and Pakistan. He would focus on those and on finding Osama Bin Laden. It was not much more than a sound bite.

But it is OK for a Christian country to invade a Muslim country and occupy it indefinately (100 years by McSame), for what reason? Oh WMD? Uh, the dude that blew the whistle on that lie had his CIA wife outed by VP Cheney who was protected by Bush, and so forth. We have killed thousands and thousands of Iraqis for what? To get rid of Sadam? Why not go after Mugabe? Oh yeah, no oil. The US represents itself as a christian country. Our war in Iraq, illegal by UN law that we helped write, kills way more people every month than were killed in 9/11. Argue with me all you want. Its the rest of the world you have to convince that we, the USA, has not become the primary terrorist in the world today. It reminds me of the first time I went to the principal's office for fighting in first grade. The biggest kid in the class pushed me so I pushed him back. When the principal asked him what he did then, he said, "I punched him so he would be nice." And we are not even punching the people who pushed us first. As you said "Because the religion that spawns these idiots will continue to do so until it is forced to reform from within or until sufficient pressure is brought to bear upon its more civilized adherents to stand up and be counted." Hopefully Obama represents that "reform from within". If you cannot rise above them, you ARE one of them.

I think he is still waiting for Tvash. The 40 pound weigh is still there.

Fuck you, Bug. Seriously, not just spray. You are an asshole. Your attacks have been consistant and abusive. Either take what you dish out like an adult or take your ball and go home. This is just a game or a virtual world. Most people here will not hold your posts against you in the real world. If you stay and continue to spew venom, just remember that verse, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." You are not a nice person on this board and I continue to be dissappointed with your finger pointing as though you are somehow above it all and being victimized. Seriously, read your last 100 posts in spray, or your last ten replies to something I have posted, and tell me you are proud of your Christian demeanor. Or point out in a respectful way where I am wrong and I will reply with equal respect. The opportunities are many as you well know. Better yet give up this cesspool and direct your energies more productively. Your anger is getting the best of you here and I know how bad that feels. Regardless of what you do, I have met you and see good in you. I hope you let that overshadow your persona on this board. Keith There are a few assholes on this board to whom I consistently dish back what shit they fling my way. There are a quite a few people who are pretty cool, and I have had no problem with them, and have been consistently respectful to them, unlike your BS claim above. I once thought you were in the latter group. If you want to be in the former than so be it. You don't think I'm nice? Well, right back at you buddy. We've met in person, and I expect a different level of respect from someone I have met. I post very infrequently these days. And yet, you fling my name out at random in a personal attack. You are just as disrespectful, divisive, and unpleasant as you have recently claimed I am. You are disappointed in me? The feeling is mutual. When you post something that I dissagree with, I reserve the right to reply. We all post here to everybody who reads this board. These are not private discussions we are having. When you viciously attack one person for their stand on an issue, you attack those who agree with that poster by implication. I have come out vehemently against the prevalent viciousness on this board. I was vehemently attacked even by you for bringing up this point of discussion. And that is all this board is. A place for us to discuss our ideas and beliefs. Who you CHOSE to become here is your responsibility.

Pat Gallagher, making shit up about a subject like racism isn't cool. When I next see you in person you're going to be asked to account for this lie. You shouldn't have posted it if you didn't want people to read it. Don't blame me, amigo. Look in the mirror; he's your problem. Posted what? Muslim bashing? That's not racism--nor is it any worse than the constant Christian bashing you are guilty of. The only difference is that my distaste for Islam is grounded in fact. I think you have issues that can only be resolved with your mouth and left nostril immersed in a mud puddle, your right elbow secured snugly behind your back. FW, I am a Christian and have traveled in Muslim countries during times of war. While the soldiers were hostile, the civilians I met were, without exception, amoung the nicest and most hospitible I have met anywhere. "Muslim bashing" by you or anybody else is no different than the "Christian bashing" we have seen on this board. Not all of us Christians are alike. Lying and war-mongering are not fundamental values of Christ yet, "MY PRESIDENT" has done just that. You and I will be held accountable for that if we travel abroad. We will be seen as Bushite/Christians (even Tvash will be seen this way), and feared by reasonable people in much the same way that our people have feared al Quaida. Islam is just not as violent as you make it out to be. It rose out of Saudi Arabia in 644 AD. Most of the Medditteranian basin was Muslim within 50 years. Some of it was taken by the sword which had a rich tradition of skill and honour in the desert. The reaction by the Christians of the time was violent to the same degree. The honour of battle in the desert does not translate into blowing up a train full of civilians. I would hazard an educated guess that those terrorists are in for a large dissappointment when they die. But mostly, it will be the people who led them there who meet with negative consequences. This will not be unlike the deaths of many Christians over the ages and into today. Those who would not recognize Unconditional Love as the primary teaching of Christ may well be amoung them. I hope you do not take this board so seriously that it would ruin your day. To you and all who post here, HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!!!

Fuck you, Bug. Seriously, not just spray. You are an asshole. Your attacks have been consistant and abusive. Either take what you dish out like an adult or take your ball and go home. This is just a game or a virtual world. Most people here will not hold your posts against you in the real world. If you stay and continue to spew venom, just remember that verse, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." You are not a nice person on this board and I continue to be dissappointed with your finger pointing as though you are somehow above it all and being victimized. Seriously, read your last 100 posts in spray, or your last ten replies to something I have posted, and tell me you are proud of your Christian demeanor. Or point out in a respectful way where I am wrong and I will reply with equal respect. The opportunities are many as you well know. Better yet give up this cesspool and direct your energies more productively. Your anger is getting the best of you here and I know how bad that feels. Regardless of what you do, I have met you and see good in you. I hope you let that overshadow your persona on this board. Keith

Nice post JayB. I still disagree with the apparent premise that we can continue on the course we are on in terms of government intervention. I disagree this premise because our government currently imposes a tax structure that give huge advantages to large corporations especially oil and auto corporations. So while you seem to stand against government intervention, you also seem to support the current administration which has intervened in a big way. They have done this by making it much less costly tax-wise to be bigger while still stinging smaller corporations with high taxes and limited shelters. This serves to stifle the very innovative spirit that you are proposing will rescue us from our energy conundrum. This does not even scratch the surface of the problems of energy availability as a commodity affecting the broader economy at every level. So I agree with your premise but not your implementation scenario.

Our president is a Christian extremist. So are FW and KKKK. You are either with them or against them. There is no middle ground.

Yikes. Nice pics and nice send. The pics from the first party made it look easier than the second partie's pics.

Make your day! I don't know much about this program but it seems like it would be effective with my daughters.

Don't make me define "squirt".

Ha! You both waited till after my bedtime to pretend you were staging your communist rebellion. Today you're both back to lickin chicken in a capitalistic society wishin, just wishin (as in nothing more), that your wife would invite you back into bed. Truth is, you're both one generation after that bedouin j_b was talkin about............ Good mornin squirts.

Its not marriage. It's the new job. I am gazing into this box about 12 hrs a day. Might as well get some fun out of it.

We elected GW didn't we. Sorry man, but i started voting 1980 and I've allways used common since when i pick someone to make big Changes in my life,and i vote agaist ass fucks!! I beleive that the voters who put the Reagans,and Bushs in office should be Kick in the nutsack,and have their face rubbed in a steamy pile of dog shit!!! And forced to wear a big red "R" on their chest,ride in the back of the bus,and shut the fuck up!!!! I don't know how they can defend their vote,and the 9.5 trillion Reagan and the bushs waisted!! But all i hear from these ASSHATES is Clinton lied,so i guss they rather be buttfucked,then let Bill get a good BJ from a fat slut from P.O.Town!!! The truth is we all didn't vote to drink the koolaid,just like we all didn't vote for Clinton or Obama! Tell that to the next Iraqi you meet in Bagdad. I didn't vote for the Reaganites, Bushites or any other Republican presidential candidate or their followers and lackies. But as a democracy, "For the people, BY THE PEOPLE", they still represented each of us. The sad truth is, while you and I were out climbing for the fun of it, other folks were out campaigning for the right people. So to at least some degree, our approval was tacit. In that regard, we, that is you and me, had a sip of that kool-aid. Makes the eyes sting eh?

Goats milk is about 3 times better for you than cows milk. As with all lactating species, be sure of the gender.

A friend of mine was working in LA in the seventies trying to become a big star but meanwhile shooting commercials. He shot a couple with Harrison Ford who was also hacking away at the rhinestone ceiling. One day my friend ran into Harrison and asked how he was doing. Harrison had just finished shooting StarWars in front of a green backdrop. He said, "I think I just ended my carreer for good. I just finished shooting a sci-fi movie that had a script straight out of a low budget western." BRING ON THE COMPUTER ANIMATION AGE!

I got a headhunter call from one of the windfarms in eastern Oregon because they where looking for mechanics, and I am a HVAC Mechanic. Umm.... Yeah, they where offering $15 an hour... No thanks. that's $17 less an hour than I am making now. Cripes! That was what I was making in high work 25 years ago.

Thanks for the great TR! I seriously considered calling in sick Tuesday afternoon and driving over there. But alas, too many commitments..... Do it, and do it alot before you get married and have kids. It gets much more difficult.

We elected GW didn't we.