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Blame America First! Moral relativism! F-Yeah! Inaccurate knee-jerk reaction. America has a part to play in stirring the pot. As the most powerful country in the world, we should be setting the example for others to follow. We have stumbled on too many occasions. That is not blaming us for the problem. It is looking at how we might help avoid giving our enemies fuel to recruit with. Going into Iraq the way we did is such an example. We lied about why and conquered another country. This does not say that muslim extremeists are right. They are not. Why say "Bring it on"? When we went into Afgahnistan there was almost no reaction. We went in to do eliminate the people who flew jets into the World Trade Center. Clear and reasonably justifiable. Instead of following those same people into Pakistan, we left them alone inside that country and attacked another Arab country. Everyone over there beleives it is for money. Why fuel that? Why risk that? We could have squeezed Hussein far more than we did. The no-fly zones were a weak joke. The oil shutdowns were they way to get to him. We refused to enforce that option. There were alternatives and we failed to execute them.

Hitler was able to prove that ALL jews were a threat to German society and then proceeded to kill them off. You know the story. Now we have a bunch of fundamentalist Muslims getting out of hand. They will certainly be remebered by history as blood thirsty criminals but why condemn all muslims? Hatered of all Muslims is just wrong. Islam is a peaceful religion. If it IS the one true religion, Islamic terrorists will most certainly burn in Hell. The selective passages that are used by Isamic Extremeists and anti-Muslims are misrepresenting the religion. But as a religion, it gets misused just like Christianity. Look at what Christians did to the Aztecs, Incas, North American Indians. We are not criminals or bad people but still we have allowed our government to treat the Muslim world and other third world peoples badly. We are insulated by our media and our popular unwillingness to look at the effect our lifestyle has on other peoples. If it were not the Muslims, it would be some other group that eventually rose against our oppressive tactics. Ask any Palestinian. ElSalvadorian. Guatamalean. Nicaraguan. The list goes on. It is too easy to hate.

Cool. Thanks for the warning.

Look at it this way. If I put you in an empty pool and peed in one end, you would just move to the other end. If Everyone who turns off their lights for one hour also peed in the pool, you would be in deep water (or something). More importantly, all those people would be aware of the fact that they are not alone in making the world a better place.

There's oil in Canada? Invade! There's still a few months left.......

What a waste...

My name is not unique but I have yet to hear anything similar to the names my teachers used to yell at me.

I was at Devil's tower several years ago and there was a pimple faced kid with braces and a ranger uiform givig a talk on "How to Climb". Meanwhile, the guy who had put up most of the hard routes there at the time was emptying the garbage.

We are and always will be "fucked up". The FREEDOM and RESPONSIBILITY to discuss it and act on our beleifs is what makes this country great.

I thought that was ADD.

After 6 years of Bush you think this only applies to Liberals!? Wasn't it "the mainstream trend" to jump into a war in Iraq? And weren't ALL the listed reasons for that invasion proven to be LIES? You are an ideologue. Think boy. THINK.

Don't these guys ever car-pool?

If the guys in black suits, sunglasses, and earbuds can keep GW safe from the whacked-out left, they can keep Obama safe from the whacked-out right. Aahhhhh. Balance.

Follow the money

phhhhhhhtttt.

......and climbers may liken it to something transcendental. Or maybe it's the way climbing tests muscles and stamina, or how it goads willpower......... Let them go to the gym.

Eisenhower was right.

My 12 yr old already gives me instructions on what NOT to say in public.

Cool. Thanks for that.

And the year of the Pig.

Happy B-Day you stubborn sob. Mine was Monday. I had a visit from a paranoid schizophrenic. No he doesn't frequent this board but yes, he has a lot in common with some of these folks.

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Classic fall-back maneuver. Where's your spine, man? I have actively scrutinized and criticized every President, Senator, and Rep represeting me since I came of voting age and registered. I get Christmas cards from all my friends in DC because they hear from me so often. To blindly accept any politician's statements is irresponsible. Reagan was one of the WORST presidents this country has ever had because he started the dismantling of the constituion and bill of rights. He also re-wrote the Presidential Powers using public support via his brilliant propoganda machine. Now we see the same trend with George Bush. The republican party controlled all three branches of government for 6 years. Are we better off? Hell no. Did they do any of the "Christian" things they promised? Hell no. That anyone can support either party blindly in these times is scary. You have to have your head in the sand. Now THAT is spineless.

I think I work with those guys.