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In April, 15 years ago, I did this route. We got to the summit of Persis in just under two hours, but took ten hours car to car. The traverse starts a fair ways down the south side from the Persis summit, traverses a ways, then follows a chute back up and eventually follows the ridge. After passing the low point in the ridge (4800') there are a couple of steep snow steps, then a gentle rolling ascent to the Index summit.

I once did Granite, McClellan's Butte, and Si in a day; WOOHOO!

NEW YORK CITY; Well that just Chaps my hide.

dkemp said in this thread that he got within a couple hundred feet of Chiwawa's summit last weekend. You might check with him.

I was up there during an alpine biology class when I was in college. Some reason I was by myself up at Windy Pass, between Lake Caroline and Trout Lake. So I dropped my pack and scrambled up Cashmere from there. Seems like there was one exposed step across and then a steep gully to the summit. That was thirty years ago, but I remember it as a fun little scramble.

I've got a 93 Geo Prizm I bought 2 1/2 years ago. It's got 79k on it but it just sat for 8 mos while I was a 'climbing' cripple. I'm satisfied with it's performance. But a couple weeks back I was rear ended, which did a number on the rear bumper and trunk cover. It was considered a total loss but seems to run just as well as before. So I took a $400 (salvage value) hit in the insurance settlement by deciding to hang onto it. Still I recovered better than 2/3 of what I paid for it.

That's my lack of style, If you think it's lame don't read my threads.

And not having a rope with which to rap the standard route, Johnny said he retraced his ascent route to get off.

given the time and money (ability needed to jug up some sherepa-fixed lines while sucking 02 is pretty minimal) i would rate everest as pretty low on my list of things to do. i'd rather go to the karakoram, siguniang or garwhal with that much $$ and free time. there are also other people here who, apparently unlike you, danielle and annabelle, have enough imagination to think beyong a puff piece tick list. fuck rainier and denali too. And what with juggin them lines on 8k peaks she'll probably never find time to get any way near 25,000 posts on cc.com. geesh

voodoo

depends if she did it with oxygen or without. any peak in this day and age climbed with oxygen is just another wank fest- regardless of your age- period. and wether you are nice or a total asshole (i personally preffer to be the later one) has nothing to do with acompishment cryteria of high altitude climbing. This thread is the fuckin wankfest. At 20 with just five years of climbing it's not like your going to set any standard that's going to impress this crowd of hardmen and college climbers. I think it is a great way to spend her time and her daddy's money.

many years ago Johnny Jeans told me he soloed up hucleberry's west face while doing a number of peaks in the area.

Sure Klenke it's for real. Olyclimber said he'd show. and sounds like Laura wants to be there. I'm on my way. See you there.

Tenzing says as much in his book. I don't think he was a self promoter but wanted to set the records straight that it was a partnership between he and Hillary; with neither of them having to be hauled up. They swung leads and each contributed to the others success. Tenzing had been high on the mountain the year before with the Swiss. And as sherpa had done a lot of the route preparation.

Hey this thread is for us armchair climbers. Deal with your private issues via private messages.

The question is: will lummox make it? Map

Maybe this quote refutes what I previously said was the main thrust of my 1st post, but it doesn't diminish Tenzing's credit for getting Hillary to the top.

...from Tenzing's book Tiger Of The Snows, pp.247-8: I have thought much about what I will say now: of how Hillary and I reached the summit of Everest. Later, when we came down from the mountain, there was much foolish talk about who got there first. Some said it was I some Hillary. Some that only one of us got there--or neither. Still others that one of us had to drag the other up. All this was nonsense. And in Katmandu, to put a stop to such talk, Hillary and I signed a statement in which we said "we reached the summit almost together." We hoped this would be the end of it. But it was not the end. People kept on asking questions and making up stories. They pointed to the "almost" and said, "what does that mean?" Mountaineers understand that there is no sense to such a question; that when two men are on the same rope they are together, and that is all there is to it. But other people did not understand. In India and Nepal, I am sorry to say, there has been great pressure on me to say that I reached the summit before Hillary. And all over the world I am asked, "Who got there first? Who got there first?" Again I say: it is a foolish question.The answer means nothing. And yet it is a question that has been asked so often-that has caused so much talk and doubt and misunderstanding-that I feel, after long thought, that the answer must be given. As will be clear, It is not for my own sake that I give it. Nor is it for Hillary's. It is for the sake of Everest-the prestige of Everest-and for the generations who will come after us. "Why" they will say "should there be a mystery to this thing? Is there something to be ashamed of? To be hidden? Why can we not know the truth?"...Very well: now they will know the truth. Everest is too great, too precious, for anything but the truth. A little below the summit Hillary and I stopped. We looked up. Then we went on. The rope that joined us was thirty feet long, but I held most of it in loops in my hand, so that there was only about six feet between us. I was not thinking of "first" and "second." I did not say to myself, "There is a golden apple up there. I will push Hillary aside and run for it." WE went on slowly and steadily. And then we were there. Hillary stepped on top first. And I stepped up after him. So there it is: the answer to the "great mystery." And if, after all the talk and argument, the answer seems quiet and simple,I can only say that it is as it should be. Many of my own people, I know, will be disappointed at it. They have given a great and false importance to the idea that it must be I who was "first." These people have been good and wonderful to me, and I owe them much. But I owe more to Everest--and to the truth. If it is a discredit to me that I was a step behind Hillary, then I must live with that discredit. But I do not think it was that. Nor do I think that, in the end, it will bring discredit on me that I tell the story. Over and over again I ask mself, "What will future generations think of us if we allow the facts of our achievement to stay shrouded in mystery? Will they not feel ashamed of us--two comrades in life and death--who have something to hide from the world?" And each time I asked it the answer was the same: "Only the truth is good enough for the future. Only the truth is good enough for Everest."

uff da! I stand corrected. But your second point is the main thrust of my post.

May 29, 1953; Tenzing Norgay guided the brit Edmund Hillary to the top of Everest.

http://www.cascadeclimbers.com/threadz/s...85da#Post462400

How about a lummox pub club this Wednesday at The Eastlake Zoo or The Roadhouse or some other sufficiently smoky or hard to get to venue.

In '89' I was descending from Camp Muir on New Years weekend. We lost our way in a whiteout and were descending toward the Nisqually by mistake. Knowing we were off coarse and late, we dug a shallow snow cave and spent the night. Fortunately the low visibility was really the only adverse condition besides it being fauking cold out. A reconoiter in the morning put us back on coarse. We were some of the lucky ones. In May '99' I was involved in a search for John Repka who Became separated from his party while descending from Camp Muir on a one day outing. When his body was finally located months later (Sept.), it was at the 8100 ft level on the Paradise Glacier. It is very easy to get lost in low visibility while descending from Muir especially at around 8,000 ft where the line of descent shifts to a different compass bearing.