Thanks Dru I am going to past on robson this year due to the fact that it is to late. I was just hopeing for a weather window and it wasn't a good enough window. I probably try do atempt On the NF next year in one day. If Will Gadd can do the Kain face in one day I might be able to pull of the NF in one . Have you done the north face before Dru?? Just curious what route do you think is beter wishbone arrete or the NF.