icegirl

How many of those 3 women on this site have ever gone hiking by themselves? Perhaps because no one else was available, or just to enjoy the solituded... The mall is not the only place with a parking lot. CWP and a big mean looking dog then you _really_ can walk like you own the place...

No one has mentioned the danger to the doggies... There have been more than one canine deaths at crags because the dog got too close to the edge, or what have you and tumbled off into the abyss. Given, maybe it's only city slicker doggies that would be silly enough to play on the cliff, but then again, who is taking their dogs to the crags... But seriously, canines, no matter how well trained, can be unpredictable. Who knows when that snafflehound that that they've seen a million times before is suddenly going to interest them, and they jump out and string their leash across the trail tripping a whole party of mounties out doing their basic rock class, slip off the edge, and hang their silly doggy self... Of course you nor your partner can do anything because you're half way up a route, hangdoggin'... I have a friend who has been taking his dog to the crags for the past 10 years or so. She's mellow, just hangs out, but then sometimes, if he's not sending a 5.13 or something, she gets bored and wanders off (hey, wait, that sounds like some climbing bettys I've seen at the crags). Nothing like finishing off your fine day of climbing looking for a dog... I have a dog. We go hiking when I have time off, and running around Greenlake when I don't. Despite her delightful personality, I wouldn't take her to the crags... (Allison: She's gotten much better... )

If I remember correctly there is a Hostel in Mazama, for super cheap, right by the climbing area (summer and winter) Don't know what it's like though, as have family within 30 miles, and figured that I'd get Kudo points and free breakfast/coffee if I made the drive.

Another vote for Little Cottonwood... Awsome in the fall...

Very very glad you are all back safe and sound! Didn't want to see ya at the big house (Harborview) for any frostbitten toes -L

Apologies to those who feel them necessary. I edited that out. I read the annual accident report, and in more than one instance have known the people well that were being written about. The things I am more interested in (than who messed up and did what and what would "I" done) is more along the lines of how did these people survive, how were the evacuated, things like that. Not what stupid things got them into the mess, but what smart things got them out...

Don't know what mtn, just caught the tail end of it mentioned. [ 07-29-2002, 08:58 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Does anyone know anything about a dude who fell 100' into a crevass this last weekend? What do people thing about having an accident reports discussion section, to learn from others mishaps. I know there have been some discussions out there, but how about putting them all in one place...

Eat Brewers Yeast suppliment on your popcorn, my mom used to feed it to us, as Deet (and the likes) would cause her a screaming migrane. It seems to make us less than desirable tasting to the skeets, and perhaps other things too, as I lived, horseback rode and hiked and such in N. eastern Washington for years and never got a tick either. She said it was because of the Vit. B complex.. who knows... It's supposedly a great source of all sorts of other goodies too...

Update: for interested parties With the $7.00 shipping (via airbourn) from Jumar.net took exactly 2 weeks from ordering to receipt of my la sportiva mythos. they warn it could take over a month.

Does the Buckaroo have outdoor seating?

Or are you just happy to see me... No, really... I'm not kidding... http://www.washington.edu/burkemuseum/mammalogy/thma.html

sk... Yes, twight from afar, I hear ya sister... Actually his presentation is rather entertaining, some good punk music... I'd go again (if only to admire) And, yes, He has climbed a few things in the PNW, I believe the North Face of Colonial Peak "Watusi Rodeo" route has his name on it...

Yeah, I set myself up for that one

Hmm... I'd love your advice on which shops in my local area will "match price" on non-close-out items. I've tried, even batted my eyelashes on occasion, and they all say "fine, order it from ______". Perhaps if I were a smelly just off the mountain looking like a bearded billy goat, in my blue long johns with tattered shorts over them climber dude, it might work better... As a side note, when I owned a scuba diving shop, and whiny divers would come in saying the same thing (that joe-schmo's shop would sell it to them for such and such) I'd tell 'em to go for it! Though I'd also tell them that they'd always get better service from me than a mail order catalog when their regulator was misbehaving.

I've had good luck with TP also, and jumar.net (waiting for my latest order, shipped out from Italy on Tuesday via the nicely priced airbourn mail - $7 - waiting to see if it really takes a month to get here) They filled the order and shipped it in 2 days, despite the warning that it can take up to 2 weeks or thereabouts. Another I've had success with; http://www.climbaxe.com [ 07-13-2002, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

There has been a good thread or two on this subject in "online/mail order gear shops" It mentions a few others.

If you had a dog in the city, this would not be a question. Some of the doggy-poo bags are very technologically advanced for smell, isolation and containment these days. Check out your local pet store if you are curious.

Yeah, makes it a little less friendly to have to price shop and compare (and include shipping) at EVERY different overseas mail-order place for each purchase, but in the end, I guess if I really didn't care about money and supporting, well, you know... I'd just buy 'em at REI... (and I'd just climb plastic in the gym, and be DAMN proud of it)

Mythos rock shoes. Back up in the thread a bit and you'll see I've been whining about lack of size at a few of the places...

Math With shipping... from pyrenees = 103.00 from Jumar = 85.00

telemark-pyrenees = $$$ shipping... emailed them asking about it, and they promptly replied to my comment about expensive shipping, and said they are working on it (and to buy more shoes at a time) and wished us a happy 4th of July... Jumar.net, lots of sizes if you don't mind waiting a bit, and $7.00 shipping (air mail) if you don't mind waiting a bit more... Hey, I'm in no hurry... Sport Extreme = once again, limited sizes. [ 07-04-2002, 04:14 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

I don't recommend anyone in particular. I have aquaintances who are involved with the Woodville Karst Plains Project, but have not been in contact with them in a while, so I don't know if I'd have them train me (no, I did not get certified by them) My training was in the early 90's, before there were real agencies other than the NSS-CDS/NACD, and IAND (before IANTD)

Air at 170'... Looking for a cheap high, eh. I assume you are following all the appropriate decompression standards, including ones that compensate for work load, cold, etc...???? That depth is getting rather close to the 1.6ATA O2, at which a certain number of divers suffer CNS oxygen toxicity. Not something I'd mess around with. Personally I wouldn't dive air deeper than 150-160 anymore, and when diving mix always work with an equivalent air depth as shallow as I can. (i.e. dive to 300' with enough helium to make it 'feel' like 100') as I don't want to be inebriated when I'm crawling around inside a shipwreck... But then for scuba climbing, perhaps it's like watching a bad movie, and you need the '6 pack' effect to make it more enjoyable. Whatever. 9th deepest lake in the world. Lake Chelan Washington, U.S.A. 1,419 ft (433 m) [ 06-28-2002, 02:41 PM: Message edited by: icegirl ]

Trimix. Helium/oxygen/nitrogen = deep decompression diving. Nitrox is for shallow (<130') longer dives. I used to know someone out there, will ask around and see if he's still doing it.