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i've done 1 5.4c crack. its not that big of a deal, oh wait...damn dislexia. 14c, yeah that's different.

"I heard from the Metolius rep himself that that new Master Cams aren't that good..." hmmm, not the best sales strategy....

Telluride Mountain Film in Bend this Fri and Sat (3/7-3/8) for those interested. Monies go to Resource. an active and great little non-profit, community oriented org here in central o. its at the Tower.

i think nadar is just as much a egomaniac as all the others. just because he cloaks himself in rhetoric that appeals to young, disillusioned 420ers does not change the fact that he is not electable and therefore will only seek to drain away votes from the Dems. and eventhough it looks positive now, i am sure by the time Nov rolls around every vote will be needed. and then again i could just hold a grudge since i blame him in large part for 8 fucking years of W. i think paul is a straight-shooter (well as much as someone on the repub tick can be) that is offering some thoughtful commentary and not just wanting to see his name in print and his picture on the news. nadar has sold out in my opine.

fortunately, i get to bring Migo to work everyday. super nice perk.

anyone have any links on different options to build a bed for my ranger p/u? thanks

why are you still using hotmail???

c-4 thickness is a trade off you gotta decide

unfortunately they like to run in packs. look for their friends to join in soon. they are kind of like kudzu where i grew up.

http://www.rockandresole.com/ i started using these guys when i was in co. since i have tried mountain soles in PDX (not impressed), the Rubber Room (good work, but slower), and some cobbler guy in Idaho (can't remember who) and i will always use Rock and Resole. they do excellent work every time, quick service--even mailing them there you will have them back in i week or a week and a half, price is decent, have done rush orders for me at no extra cost, repairs, etc. these guys have my loyalty.

The Hosts at RR often work at the Eight Mile Campground at Leavenworth during the summer. Though it seems like they chill out after they leave RR. Jason i am not sure i agree with the chill out once they hit 8-mile comment. both places (RR and L'worth) are notoriously unfriendly to climbers that would rather avoid the campground scene anyway. I think particularly in L'worth with the management company that runs those cg.s ....extra $ for a 2nd car, bitchy hosts waking you up at 6 a.m. to get their $16, telling you to move because someone else rented the friggin site even though their is no tag, etc on the posts...yeah, i am not sure i agree about them mellowing out. they all could take some lessons from the 'hosts' at the pit in bishop...$2 a night/ 45 night limit and then they invite you up to the RV for a bonfire and poker....

bugabooed, thanks for the response. i think it is nice to see a thought encouraging thread with different viewpoints vs deterioration into rants and spray. a few of us from bend/pdx are heading out there tomorrow. maybe we'll run into ya.

"..any crowding which might occur gets handled OK. Risking the area going through a Gov't intervention is more than I want to be a part of even if it's a 1% possibility" This seems at odds with selling a guide online, it might have started out for your friends and the end result is that it is available (thankfully, by the way) for anyone with even a little iniative to find. I personally think it is great there is the guide...I am not convinced putting directions in the guide would increase traffic more than just having a guide out to begin with. I mean is your intent just to make a meager couple of bucks (doubtful), to truly inform and advertise an area you are excited about (assumingly), or just highlight you and friends that matter are in the know (hope not, there is already too too much elitism in climbing)?

lets see, prehistory means before written history, so(for the US)you are selling a rock older than ~ 250 years old for $2500. I am sorry to hear about your girlfriend and I want the email or phone number of anyone who actually falls for this. people never cease to dumbfound me.

its a trick question, the answer is obviously FALSE

the forecast is incorrect. i am predicting 30 degrees for highs, lots of rain, frequent lightening, and did i mention the entire park is closed for peregrine nesting? i hear vantage will be great this weekend though.

yeah, yeah, yeah, Vantage or Tieton...do not drive down to smith. ignore the forecast...it is really going to be raining, 30 degrees and the whole park is closed for peregrine nesting until July.

i could take my rack of doubles, all my friend's racks, and then steal a couple of pieces and still not stack up to those. amazing. I don't think the bitch sallie mae will ever allow me to compare.

ivan, got your pm and figured it all out now.

i might be moving to SLC in the next month (50/50 chance at this point). i've only ridden through on the way south. don't know the city at all. how about some scoop on neighborhood/areas to check for housing, etc. want to be close to stuff if i am going to live in the frickin city (coffee, beer--well as close as utah gets, canyons, climbing, trails, places to take the dog, etc) . also got a huge crush on brittany griffith so like if you know where she lives and i could be her neighbor, well that wouldn't suck. thanks ahead of time for the suggestions

what are you looking to climb??

I actually agree that once you find these places the peeps in Oregon are pretty friendly and more real than alot of other places. directions given can be pretty vague sometimes to newcomers. all in all it is way more chill of a scene around here than some other 8030?...zip codes

hmmm, keeping used vials, syringes, guaze of Clemens...nah, surely not a setup or extortion plot, i am sure they just make nice bricabrac on your mantel

some of these are repeats elsewhere, but doesn't hurt to consolidate: what do you call a climber without a girlfriend? homeless how do you tell you are talking to a climber at a party? oh they'll tell you what's the difference in an investment bond and a climber? the investment bond will eventually mature and make money why did the climbers move to Bishop? they heard there was no work others???? hopefully less stale than these

i moved to OR two years ago. Central OR climbers seem to be so territorial over anything outside of Smith, be it TC or Widgi boulders, Sisters boulders, Tumalo Falls, etc. Trout Creek is pretty well known around here, and lots of PDXers have heard about it. I am not sure how i feel about posting directions and I don't think vast crowds will flock. Smith is too accessible, the weather is not the Utah desert weather, and the routes ratings are stiff, an hour hike weeds out a ton or people, not to mention not that many people in this sport haven area even have 4-6 # 1s or 2s on their rack. I've heard the Metolius crowd has tried to suppress several articles on Trout and it was inevitable that someone would eventually get the first article out there. I know we all like our secret stash spots and now that the word is out maybe it is time to start the discussion about how to keep the area viable if it does get more traffic (which it will)and focus less on trying to less to keep it a private club. comments?