Figger_Eight

Interesting article on how it went down: I guess if you were around, Marvin, it wouldn't have happened...? Mt. Hood accident

The choice to carry a phone or radio has absolutely nothing to do with being self-reliant. When you decide to use it, it does. If I get lost on the Muir snowfield because my GPS runs out of batteries and I call in a rescue - I'm simply a dumbass. If my partner is laying at my feet with his helmet cracked open from the rock that just hit creamed him, I am irresponsible if I've chosen to forego using available means of communication to call in a rescue. I now have to answer questions from his wife/parents/kids about why I had to leave him there, run 9 miles to the trailhead where I'll hopefully find another hiker who HAS a phone to call it in...just because I was trying to be self-reliant.

I remember reading the most expensive search and rescue in the National Parks was a senator's daughter who got lost hiking in Grand Canyon. I think they brought in the National Guard even. They find her walking on a road a couple of miles away, but the cost went into the millions.

quote: I am not too sure I would want to be traveling avvy terrain if this is all my partners had Exactly. If my partner showed up with one of these, I'd ask him to trade me for my shovel.

I crossed through Sumas (going into Canada) last month, but didn't have my passport. I had to go inside and wait for half an hour till in a line full of other people who didn't have their passports. I had to show them I had money and credit cards, tell them where I was going and where I was staying. It was a pain in the ass.

From the pics of the accident it looks like they weren't able to arrest and they slid in.

quote: RMI is expensiveSo is getting rescued.

...already posted. [ 05-30-2002, 11:08 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

TG - It seemed you were doing everything you could to get yourself out. It was a brilliant effort on your part and the mountain allowed you to go home, but sadly it didn't have the same leniancy towards the others. Feel good about what you did, feel sadness for them, but don't feel guilty about anything. Like Jules said...you're humility is appreciated.

Shit...it seems the mountains are claiming victims at higher rate this season. Everyone be careful out there

I'll be there around nine. I gotta work late tonight.

Ask a gym climber to set up an anchor for you.

dude, you need to bring back snoop dogg. that was some funny shit.

...you wear black tights under your khaki shorts, then top it off by wearing a pair of gaitors. Bonus points for wearing an OR Seattle Sombrero.

Here's Erik at the last Pub Club:

...you're wearing all of your Gore-tex in the parking lot-before you leave the trail head. ...you use a hydration pack. ...you wear a foam climbing helmet ...you bring crack climbing shoes, face climbing shoes, approach shoes and hiking boots on the same trip ...you talk really loud about your crazy climbing epics on Bruce's Boulder while sitting in Gustav's with your Mountie friends.

...you sport the red and white "Redpoint" sticker on your car.

quote: we'll try to make it out to grasslands to pube club as wellSo is it at your place or at Grasslands?

As long as it ain't at the North Face store [ 05-22-2002, 03:02 PM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

I'll be in Hood River all weekend, and might make the trip down. Sounds like it'll be a hoot. Just keep those porno dogs away from mine. [ 05-22-2002, 09:16 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

...wet slabs are just part of the fun. ...you know seven different ways to waterproof your clothes/tent/boots ...you know what time the 4 nearest drive-up coffee stands open, and the name of the hottie who works there. ...the 40 minute drive to Tacoma is too far for Pub Club, but the 6 hour drive to Smith is reasonable for a weekend of climbing.

quote: Had to hike someone out, drive them home, and hike back in to the camp at the col.Geez...you're a bigger man than I to do something like that...or more gullible Thanks for the report.

quote: If you feel inclined to believe that it helps cover toilet maintenance, consider that the shitter on the lower saddle between the Grand and Middle Teton is paid for by the guide services who operate on the mountain. So your $15, by comparison, subsidizes RMI among others.RMI does have their own crapper up there...but it isn't ADA compliant.

You need a parking pass to keep your car overnight at the Paradise parking lot now. You can only get one if you have reservations at either of the two lodges or in the car campgrounds. [ 05-20-2002, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: Figger Eight ]

Any dog that threatens me gets a "Vibram" stamp on their forehead from the bottom of my boot. Dog's that aren't socialized don't belong near people.