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quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Zoom is too hard for me to do without falling but it's good. Wham would be good if I could get both feet off the deck and into that thing Too much beer gut- If you ever do get both feet off the ground, Wham is awesome. Makes ya think.

"If you can tolerate children, substitute teachers are usually needed everywhere. Often times they put you on a list and call you for the days you say you are available to work. You can say yes or no, or just not answer your phone. I know it pays fairly well out here. And shit, I think kids bring their own computers to the classrooms these days...you could get a laptop, spray on cc.com on the days you work...climb in the days you dont!" What is "fairly well", as far as pay goes? I'm just curious....I've had thoughts of teaching....

Yo: hack. You're your own boss, and the pay is good. You come and go as you please. Don't wanna work tomorrow? Hah! Screw 'em. Go climbing instead. Don't know what it's like in B'ham, but in Seattle it was good. Coupla bills a day, albeit long days, and you meet interesting people. Just watch out for road-rage. And armed crack-heads!

"Westbrae Brand Miso Ramen Japan Has the distinction of being steamed, not fried, so 80% less fat. Also boasts less sodium. What's the point of eating fat-free, reduced salt ramen? That's like drinking a no fat, sugar substitute, decaf latte! 1.50/pkg. at Larry's. Larry’s, harrumph. Figures. Wine: Something white and Californian and out of a box, that's for sure" Perhaps pricy, but it does have the distinction of being the only organic product reviewed, no? So perhaps a nice bottle of Cote du Rhone would complement it nicely; one of the few unintentionally organic products left on our planet!

"Hey, DFA ain't that sort of Doctor, buster!" Oh my god! My bad! I just thought that with all the buggering you'd done on Dwayner and others.... Have you done or been on the whole 5 Easy Pieces? It looks to be quite a proud line and seems like it'd make a fun outing, despite rumors of it being a drill-fest (just imagine, a 5.13(?) at Smith with chipped holds ). NO! I want to.... Looks super-good. Franklin originally called it 12c? No one could do it or somesuch, so now 13a on the 4th pitch? I also forgot to mention Vanishing Point on the north face of Baring. Really not a sport route, cuz two or three pitches need gear, but damn close. Tennish pitches, consistently consistent, great location, great rock, and way exposed (scary!) yet safe. A must-do!

"Hey, just cuz they bolted it don't mean it's a sport-route! Tread drift - but what is *your* definition of a sport route?" Oh, my reference was simply to the fact that Wings of Desire is a climb (albeit beautiful, gracious, and bold, with amazing positions) entirely protectable with trad gear. Now good god, how could anyone justify the bolting of that wonderful trad line? If that was at Index, would it not have been chopped ages ago? A sad shame, I say.... But, since you asked me *my* definition of a sport climb, I would say it would be any climb that is bolt-protected in such a fashion as to make serious injury unlikely. No serious run-outs, no trad gear needed, nice anchors at the top, and perhaps Dwayner and Pope along to carry your shoes and rope, and sermonize about the great travesty you are about to commit! BTW, MATT ANDERSON, great trip report. You make me drool for overseas adventures!

"Anybody check out Marcus or Horne lake?" I've been to Horne Lake, and it's really good. Overhanging limestone! I've heard there are some access issues as of late, so I'd check first.... What's Marcus Lake about?

quote: Originally posted by Geek the Greek: Wings of desire at Skaha was awww-sommme. That was probably the most pumped I've ever been. Stood at the no-hands rest for a good 10 minutes to recover before the little roof... Hey, just cuz they bolted it don't mean it's a sport-route! But heck yeah, that's a good route! [ 08-24-2002, 02:28 PM: Message edited by: sexual chocolate ]

quote: Originally posted by dyno merchant: bellingham bouldering...hundereds of problems...V0-V9...harder projects...more areas being developed as we speak... but you could just go to the Udub wall...hah! Can you tell us the location of this bouldering area?

Aw, come on now. You know better. You can barely differentiate between reps and dems now....pro capital punishment, corporate welfare, welfare reform, free trade, etc. etc. I wonder if you have a bit of an antiquated ie. McCarthy-inspired (Ayn Rand inspired) view of Socialism? It seems to me that most all Europeans and Canadians I have met hold their countries' socialistic structures in high esteem, due to the positives of a more level playing field (with its attendant securities).

All Nader does is espouse the same ideals that the democratic party USED to espouse, before the entire country's shift to the right, during the Reagan years.

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: quote:Originally posted by iain: Unfortunately Ralph Nadar, while extremely intelligent and thoughtful, is not "presidential material" in the traditional sense. He just doesn't have the requisite stage presence and slick self-promotional material. It is a shame. Nader is also a socialist, at heart, who wants the government to control and regulate ALL industry. His stand doesn't sound anything like what our country was founded on (and worse than we have now). I agree with MtnGoat - more liberty and personal responsibility and less governmental intrusion. Ayn Rand's writing is very refreshing. To clarify, Ralph Nader was removed from the audience of debate because he was trying to enter using someone else's credential. Greg W Yes, Ralph Nader seems to espouse many noble qualities of socialism, akin to some European and Canadian customs, and, suffice it to say, more industry regulation is needed, as has so amply been proven following the dereg and privatization scandals of the last ten years. The chickens have come home to roost! Also, to FURTHER clarify, the debate committee's rules have a rather high bar for entry: 20% in the current polls for qualification? Am I right on the number? Rather egregious, if you ask me....

For some reason, I've always liked Hydrophobia at Little Si. Magic Light at Smith I always enjoy. Californication at Little Si (Chronic sucks!). Ooh...Five Easy Pieces at Smith. Oh why are you so fun, little one, little one? Oh jeez, Kings of Rap. And something called Missing Link at Lake Louise, Banff. Yo hard! And what is our favorite proctologist's favorite route, por favor? I believe there are numerous points of curiousity quivering, perhaps bwain dwayne being one of them?

quote: Originally posted by thelawgoddess: "hard" is relative. especially in boulder problems. i can work some stuff on the wall; i just don't get a workout from it. a workout, to me, involves sore muscles more than "sore tendons". anyway, i just prefer to boulder in relative seclusion, surrounded by nature, and on REAL boulders. I agree, me too. But I do get killer workouts there, mainly power-endurance laps on the over-hangs. If ya do it right, great for hard bouldering and, heaven forbid, hard redpoints!

"Personal freedom has to do more with civil rights than with economic organization..." Economics do play a major role in any analysis of "freedom", no? Impoverishment doesn't seem to breed "freedom", not within the structures of our "relative" world, no?

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: Bottom line is that socialism (in whatever form you choose) inhibits personal freedom instead of guaranteeing it as our Founding Fathers intended. Look at the income tax (extortion) rates in some of these European countries It's bad enough that I don't get to take home all of MY earnings every week as it is. Greg W P.S. MtnGoat s Hah! Now we get to the "bottom-line"! "Bottom-line" is that YOUR supposed freedoms get trampled; who cares about the "freedoms" of the down-and-out, disabled, unemployed, mentally troubled, discriminated against, etc.. These never seem to get too much air-time with the Libertarian trumpet-blowers. It's everyone for themselves! And let the most able survive! Cuz it's about MY freedom, after all! ME ME ME ME ME!

"the gym is where i play in the wee hours of the morning before some people even get out of bed, and i get way more of a workout there than that wussy little wall could ever afford me." Hah! You just don't know how to work it, baby! I've had some of the best workouts of my life at the glorious UW rock. Plus, the hardest bouldering problems in the state reside there....

very true about nader, and most other third party candidates. the debate rules are currently written in a way that ENSURES no third party will get in to ruin the two-party strangle-hold on the limited ideas discussed during the debates (debates? hah. what a joke). mtn. goat: your ideas mirror those of the libertarian party line. They also seem analogous to Ayn Rand's. Was my jab meant as a dismissal? Not entirely, yet I will admit to considerable frustrations with what I see in their/your arguments. It's mainly the assumptions about the "evils" of "human nature", and how it's best to accept them and work accordingly. It's a bit cynical, if you ask me. There's more: "I don't believe it does negate the above, because concern is nice, but it's separate from telling other citizens they shall work to support your own personal values, however nice they may be to you." This happen sall the time; it's part of living with other human beings. we all do things we don't necessarily agree with, yet we have collectively agreed upon certain rules. If we find those rules unfair/unjust, we can work to change them. Democracy. Yes, we have the power to work for change. It sounds as though through your volunteer efforts, you engage in this action quite a bit. BTW, the CFR is placing limits on the donations, if my understanding is correct, and on the timing of those contributions. Of course we are still free as individuals to donate money to candidates and causes!

Straight outta the Ayn Rand-led libertarian think-tank! [ 08-23-2002, 10:13 AM: Message edited by: sexual chocolate ]

Where did the idea of government "by the people, for the people" come from? Is this not a direct quote from some source that I simply cannot recall? "True. But that's what it's for. I work to get money so I can tilt the field my direction with better housing, food, medicine, etc." It seems that is ideal is so cynical and empty of any humanitarian values. Not only does it negate the above ideal, it replaces it with "the richer you are, the more power ye shall have", which is about what we have right now. Maintain the status quo? Access to government, OUR government, should not be based on the size of ones campaign contribution, and to not codify and legislate against it is a terrible form of cynicism. Perhaps CFR is an incomplete remedy, fraught with loopholes yet to be discovered, but at least it's a move in a direction that most people in the US seem to want-an attempt to negate control of government policy by those with the most money.

quote: Originally posted by Peter Puget: quote:Originally posted by sexual chocolate: Now we're really getting into semantic mince-meat.... "All-around 5.11 climbers" can be shown 5.11s that they would piss their collective pants on. Which begs the question: What does it mean to be a solid 5.11 climber? If'n ya don't can't won't do a certain 5.11, ya ain't a "all-around 5.11 climber"? Well it does beg the question somewhat. What I would say is that those 5.11s one can't/won't climb would be "few." quote: PP: The term "few" places some conditional limits on a given context, regardless of one's peripatetic reasoning.... If I know a "few" climbers, this would limit that sample pool to perhaps 5 in size. Now if a few of those climb X, Y, or Z, "few" would still denote a number which the term refers to: "Amounting to or consisting of a small number: one of my few bad habits. Being more than one but indefinitely small in number: bowled a few strings." (per www.dictionary.com) So given this sordid state of affairs, ALL of my 5.13 climber buds could be "all-around 5.11 climbers", since the sample pool is but a "few".... Ummmm....so there. Well it is nice if they all are. That still doesn't change my argument anymore than the probability of having "heads" come up the next time you flip a coin changes after it comes up heads 10 times in a row just before the flip in question. But I do question your use of the dictionary. It is not the word "few" that enables you to not be inconsistent by now claiming that ALL your 5.13 friends are solid all-around 5.11 leaders. But your previous use of the word "least". Here it is: at least a few of the 5.13 climbers I know are quite good on trad, with 5.12 gear on-sight abilities. Please less time in the gym and more in school! By the way any volunteers to tow me up Mary's Tears/Crucifx? PP Good God! You've been spending too much time in school, and you're still not getting it right! Either one works! Now cheers, goddamnit.

Good god

Who's been over-rating that damn UW rock again? WHO?

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Off White - Dr. K would be Dr. Kubiak, i.e. Eric (Erik?) Kubiak, Seattle-based hardperson (i.e. 5.14s) and loudmouth extraordinaire. Actually, he's in NY now (I think), but I swear I hear him screaming every now and then....

BTW, PP, 12c trad onsight, yet only V3 bouldering? Those are lopsided enough numbers to make Dwayner jealous....