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My climbing partner and I both hav been taking it for several years and seem to be holding off the effects of walking down hill-sore knees. I used to have knee problems and stopped running and had severe problems after each big climb. Glucos./Chond. and MSM have made the difference, I run again and have no knee soreness after a climb... This advice is worth what you paid for it...

If you were on the summit of Stuart and looking North, Rainier would not be in your left view. It is South of Stuart, behind you. Are you sure you were on Stuart? Perhaps Pinnacle? Just call me a smart ass...

Task, If you are coming out of the closet, use your real, whole name....

I don't care what that web site says, I am almost positive that Ron Gardener and Kent Morell of the WAILERS in Tacoma wrote LOUIE-LOUIE. Paul Revere and the Raiders did't record it until '63. I have a Wailers recording from '61 with it. For what it is worth...it is worth what you paid for it- nothing.

Zeno-Jeez, lighten up, Bugrs' comment was as funny as shit (is shit funny?)!

A new route in his name is a good idea! Use his stuff and make it a good one!

Too bad about the way you "scored" the booty...someone had to die. Maybe make a contribution in his name?

Three to five days is not a real long time so why do you need a huge pack? Make it a real adventure and trim down the gear; move lighter and faster and more safely. Assuming it will be in the "good weather window".

I know of a small but dedicated group of people (with the resources), who have been talking to the NPS to eliminate all the buildings, except the original stone hut, and build a new, hidden from view, hut, big enough for independents and guided. It is a long road but with private money doing most of te work, the NPS is at least listening.

Would your wilderness experience have been enhanced by many braided trails and people camping al over the place? How about keeping all the camping in one place and just a few steps away-quiet and solitude.

Mr. Happy--"White Spider" is good but falls short when we are talking about the whole of the Eiger. "Eiger-The Vertical Arena" deals with all of the stuff that goes into the making of the legend. It has some very insightful chapters about the first ascent of the North face and the Nazi connection, a-la "White Tower". Fascinating stuff!

I've enjoyed Tom Pateys "One Mans Mountains" time and again. Good tales of climbing and great humor! A must read! "Welzenbach's Climbs" by Eric Roberts A good biography about one of the early hard men pioneering ice rts. in the Alps before modern equipment made "murder of the impossible" possible. A recent release by the mtneers. "Eiger-The Vertical Arena" edited by Daniel Anker This is a great book! A thorough examination of the Eiger, from early history to modern rts. The mystic of the great north face and the railroad through the guts and the great rescues and deaths. If you have any interest or have been there this is the book to help understand its' bigger than life reputation. Don't miss this one!

I once saw a guy stand on a tuna can.

Mayby thread creep is like a knot in slippry rope, with a little tension the rope pulls through the knot. The knot is still there but not in the same place.

OS,Sorry I jumped on that. Actually I recall calling something 5.4c onetime in the name of humor. You are right: not 5.9. I really don't like old rts. rating to be inflated or deflated for that matter, by newcomers who have little experience for making the new ratings claims. I don't see Damnation as an off-width, I climb it as a lieback. Angel has gotten more difficult with the grease, rubber and rounding of edges. It could be climbed several different ways in mtn. boots.

Officespacey, Where did you come up with 5.8d? That sounds like sport talk. Canary was done by Becky, Collins and Claunch in the 50s, pre sub catagories. Becky rates it 5.7. The first pitch is steep but has sharp holds and edges- 5.7. The second pitch starts with an exposed step down with good hands and then goes around the corner to a less steep face with rounded knobs, edges and scoops. Protected by bolts it goes at 5.7. It probably feels more difficult because the bolts are not every two feet. I have done Canary many times and it is always fun and seems consistant with Lworth ratings. 5.7

The White Tower was filmed around Mt. Blanc and is supposed mto represent a unclimbed peak in neutral Switzerland during WW2. Lloyd Bridges plays a young hot shot nazi who climbs for the fatherland. It is a good representation of western impressions of nazi fanaticism. Much of which was supposedly carried out on the Eiger. The Rebuffat movies are by far the best treatment climbing has ever had! They are movie versions of his books: "Between Heaven and Earth", "Starlight and Storm" and "Neige Et Roc". Rebuffat came to the USA acouple of times in the early 70s and showed his films. They are spectacular! They rely upon the spiritual rewards of climbing for their grace. They also caught the beauty of the high Alps and the technical climbing is well done. Someone should get the rights to them and sell or show them.

Really should break open a bottle of cheap red wine. Batso got the big wall installed in the American climbers conscious. He made that big scary first lead into the void; we are just following him. Climbers everywhere lost something with his loss.

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For some reason Trapper Peak comes to mind. Can't recall what Trapper looks like but when I see this pic I think of Trapper.

Hemlock from Chair?

I met her at a party one time and put two and two together. Asked her if she knew a Fred Becky; she blushed. Judge Dwyer was a man of honor and integrity. He held people to their word. A sad day for all.

That is exactly what I heard and saw. In fact they had a small fuzzy graphic of the coarse and it showed a pitch of 74d at the top and near the bottom! It sure didn"t look like the racers were practically free falling. But then again, these are OLYMPIC skiers; they are GOOD.

You are right. Artist point, you even see Shuksan if I remember correctly. The point about the deer not fleeing and the random firing was it was a reenactment of Viet Nam. If you have ever been in an ambush the first thing you do is get down and then return fire with all you've got in all directions! The hunting scene is the same only different. The Americans in VN did alot of random firing at an alusive target that didnot flee. It was called H&I (harrasement and interdiction).

As for Mikes question. I guess we felt like our civil rights were being trampled upon with those ranger searches. Do what they do at Denali: an educational and information approach and let the climbers make the decisions. As for having the proper equipment; just having it doesn't mean knowledge or ability to use it or the ability to think. How many times have we heard of situations where the distressed climbers made the wrong decisions? Hind sight is 20/20.