chelle

Given the time of year you are going both will be an adventure and pretty cold cause it is winter there. Stay in teahouses and you should be fine. If you skip going up the Gokyo valley on the Everest trek you would have enought time to do both E and Annapurna treks. Annapurna does have a hisotry of avalanches in some of the towns, so that is something to consider as well.

Yeah, maybe "play by" was the wrong phrase. They need to at least be able to tollerate the way that many of the guys play on the site, write it off as guys being guys, and be aware that if it is directed at them they can choose to spray back, laugh at it, or ignore it.

No but it should be. We went through this discussion about a month ago when we talked about trip reports and dissing other people's stories. Got nowhere catbird. This group is unruly and you gotta have a thick skin and an ability to not take stuff personally most of the time. I assume since you didn't want to give away the person's gender, that it is yet another female who lerks and thinks all you guys are a bunch of little boys who don't want to share their toys in the sandbox. She's gotta start playing by their rules or ignoring the stuff that is bs. We need more women posting on this site.

The Gore floss is the best stuff for quick repairs on outdoor gear too. You can sew backpacks, camp chairs, etc. and the stuff will not break. They have also used Gore-tex and similar fabric as a wrap around large blood vessels that need support so they don't burst.

Scott goes to school in Canada. Their Thanksgiving was back in Oct. May be true that your's are older, but mine aren't that healthy for only being 60. Mom had a stroke a couple of years ago and she now reminds me of my grandmother when she was in her late 70s. Thankfully she hates walmart so I don't have to worry about being dragged in there.

Kinda embarrased to admit it...but I did get up at 5:30 to shop with Mom for a few items on Friday am. What we'll do for our aging parents. She really wanted this particular fake christams tree that already has the lights on it and could save $100 if we got there early. Damn thing was pretty heavy too, so there was no way she could manage getting it on her own. Funny thing was that she read the ad wrong and the store opened at 8am. So we hit a couple other stores and got some good deals. 50% off on a cordless phone/answering machine and 30% off a memory foam pillow. Yep...I shopped for me.

And some of us would prefer you leave.

Looks like you had a great trip Luke. Wish I had more time to trek around the Sierra with you next time, but I have to stay west of the mountains on that trip too. BTW I got clued in to a really cool new (rediscovered and newly cleaned) bouldering area in the merced river canyon just outside the valley. I'll have to let you know how it is after my trip at Xmas.

Hey metalhead. I know its spray, but the caption on your photo is pretty disgusting. That's one of the most offensive words that can be used towards a woman. It's still a mixed crowd around here. Try to show the few of us that still post here a sliver of respect please.

Yeah, but he set up all those nice top ropes for everyone at the Love Fest. We gotta cut him some slack and let him sing.

Just think of it as manna from heaven and enjoy all the new tunes. Now you don't have to shell out cash for them. But then you could probably get some good karma points by returning it to the owner.

Pinnacles is south of SF, north of LA and nearly due east of Monterrey.

I'll probably be able to get away, but I gotta check with the SO.

Can't handle a little teasing PP? Just having some fun with SpecialEd's comment. But I do think that it's not too far from the truth about some of the alpinist/climber guys I know. They're into their climbing goals and hanging with the buddies.

Woohoo! The Haws are up above 20000. We're still in 24th place. Let's try to overtake the 23rd place team (Falcon's I think) in the next 24 hours. They're only ahead by about 700 cans. Click away.

Fern you totally crack me up!

2-I've got one road and one mt. But thinking of selling the mountain bike. Anyone interested? 18" hand built Klein Attitude Race. Great components, Judy front shock, super lightweight (17#s) = climbs hills by itself. New $2400 back in 1997. Will sell for fair price. Send me a pm.

Al Pine - I've already given you too much beta... BTW if you and the family are headed south for Turkey day send me a pm and I'll give you the beta on the Central Cal pub club.

Or golf. like golfers get laid? oh wait....maybe they do Viagra rival Cialis to sponsor PGA Tour By Mark Jewell, The Associated Press INDIANAPOLIS — The makers of a new anti-impotence drug said Wednesday they had reached a sponsorship deal with the PGA Tour, staking out a marketing niche in golf to compete with rivals' deals in professional football and baseball. I guess golfers just need a little "help". Just please don't get Tider Woods to be your spokesperson. That might hurt the sport altogether. "...research shows that young golfers need a little "help" in the bedroom dept. The cause for this is unknown. Researchers will be looking into the issue with interest, considering how popular the sport has become with young men who idolize Tiger Woods."

May not be ready to manage it, but if guiding was seen as a viable career as it is in Canada and Europe maybe the level of professionalism would increase and guides/companies could actually make money. Unfortunately it is viewed by our society as a fringe, slacker occupation between undergraduate and grad school or a way to avoid getting a real job altogether.

Yeah...overtime they tend to become introverted, shoegazing, types that are more comfortable hanging with their male buddies than having a conversation, let alone a relationship with a chick. This is particularly true if alpinism attracts them early in their development. Too much

My parents had this huge station wagon when I was younger. The drivers tester took me to one of the narrowest streets in town and told me to do a 3 point turn. I had to do a 4 point turn and got marked down for it.

Yak is the most exotic I've eaten. Behind that it's elk or road kill deer. For people who like exotics, you'll have to get out next time we have a pub club at the Kort House. They have many exotic burgers on the menu, aligator, yak, black bear, elk, buffalo, venison, and more... So TG, I'm curious about this lizard story. Care to elaborate?

I don't think the Lizard chimney is hard (anymore), just seems like a lot of other people do. Of all the climbs I've heard excuses about, that is probably #1 . Where do you put a #2 camalot on that? You're not talking about Blockbuster being an advantage to being short are you? I think tall helps on that one. A lot of these climbs people are mentioning have a trick to 'em, like Blockbuster and Canary P1, and I guess even Lizard chimney. Once you figure out the trick the rating seems a bit more in line with the norm. Hi Chuck. Too bad they complain about that pitch. It is one of my favorite at Index. #2 cam protects the belay. At the top part before the reach to the ledge it is still decent tight hands for me. If #2 is tight hands for someone, I bet that they get crappy fingers or tips up higher. Nope on your q. about Blockbuster. Was still talking about the buttlips chimney on the Lizard. For me the distance between my knee and my foot is the perfect length for solid chimney knee bars. I've seen taller people have to try to get up it at the wider portion where it really wants to poop you out.