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quote: Originally posted by Dru: What was it called before?? "Ground Up" (My hands took a beating and it was done in that style.)

quote: Originally posted by Chepe: (SNIP)I am sure Bryan knows a lot of people. [/QB] I know Bryan. He renamed my route at Little Si. He also put in a nice anchor at the top. Both efforts made it a better route IMO. [ 10-08-2002, 11:06 AM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

quote: Originally posted by David Parker: quote:Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Herman Munster rox He also has bolts in his neck. No hangers though! I think those are rivets.

I believe that it is more a manifestation of the anonimity of the posters than any one, or number of anomalies. When I was a kid, we used to hide down a side alley and lob oranges at cars passing by on the street. There was no way we were going to do so standing out on the curb, but hidden as we were, it was fun to thunk one on the hood, roof or trunk of a car. I equate this site and it's participants in much the same way. Those who don't hide behind an alias aren't typically so brutal as those that do. With anonimity, social conventions take a back seat and the "fun" goes over the top. [ 10-05-2002, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

I believe that it is more a manifestation of the anonimity of the posters than any one, or number of anomalies. When I was a kid, we used to hide down a side alley and lob oranges at cars passing by on the street. There was no way we were going to do so standing out on the curb, but hidden as we were, it was fun to thunk one on the hood, roof or trunk of a car. I equate this site and it's participants in much the same way. Those who don't hide behind an alias aren't typically so brutal as those that do. With anonimity, social conventions take a back seat and the "fun" goes over the top. [ 10-05-2002, 02:19 PM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: (snip) Anyone seen Das Experiment? Or the little kids on the island, what's that one called? (snip) Lord of the Flies?

quote: Originally posted by sexual chocolate: (snip) Anyone seen Das Experiment? Or the little kids on the island, what's that one called? (snip) Lord of the Flies?

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: Dwayner & ScottP, Doesn't the irreverent, humorous tenor of cc.com fit the broad climbing community as a whole? I get tips and ideas, and I get a chuckle or two. I know what you guys are saying, (anonymity has its effect) but the board is set up the way it is, so I enjoy it for what it is! To a certain extent. However, I believe the brutal nature of some of the posts I have read on this site wouldn't have been so brutal if those involved were in a face-to-face situation. I'm not saying this site is bad or needs to be fixed (except for those proponents of kicking little kids in the teeth .) I am just responding to Dwayner's query.

quote: Originally posted by RobBob: Dwayner & ScottP, Doesn't the irreverent, humorous tenor of cc.com fit the broad climbing community as a whole? I get tips and ideas, and I get a chuckle or two. I know what you guys are saying, (anonymity has its effect) but the board is set up the way it is, so I enjoy it for what it is! To a certain extent. However, I believe the brutal nature of some of the posts I have read on this site wouldn't have been so brutal if those involved were in a face-to-face situation. I'm not saying this site is bad or needs to be fixed (except for those proponents of kicking little kids in the teeth .) I am just responding to Dwayner's query.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: Vegetable Dude and Rob-Bob: (snip) c) ScottP...great analogy! Thanks. I'd like an extra dry Stoly martini, no olive.

quote: Originally posted by Dwayner: Vegetable Dude and Rob-Bob: (snip) c) ScottP...great analogy! Thanks. I'd like an extra dry Stoly martini, no olive.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: (snip of other non-funny stuff) Also, if small children laugh at you, just kick them in the teeth when their parents aren't looking. Little bastards. Advocating violence toward children is not funny, dickhead. It's an interesting coincidence that an adult recently punched a kid in the mouth and got beat to death for it. Probably why you'd do it while nobody was looking. [ 10-03-2002, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Oops, sorry, Scott, but DFA is back at it. No problem. quote: It's interesting that you a)posted a Red Meat comic strip, and b)picked the dead clown from the Red Meat comic strip as your avatar image. Are you a fan of the strip? DFA finds it positively hilarious. Red Meat has plenty of instances of child abuse, alcoholism (parent and child), dead clowns, drunk driving, animal misuse, abuse, and murder, and God knows how much other offensive material. All of it, however, is so over-the-top ridiculous, you can't help but laugh. So how is it that the instances of the kid getting locked in the basement or frequently psychologically abused by his dad are funny? Or any different from what the Doctor said? You notice I didn't post any of that ? Sometimes Max is funny, sometimes he's not. Sometimes you're funny, sometimes you're not. Live with it. [ 10-03-2002, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: ScottP ]

At frequent intervals along the way - leading, following, belaying - ask yourself "What's the result if X happens?" "Get impaled by that spike of granite down there?" "Slam into that corner over there?" "Get cut in two if JimmyJoeBillyBob pulls off that flake?" etc. Visualize the nasty stuff in advance to avoid it if it happens. Oh, and know how to escape a belay.

quote: Originally posted by troubleski: It could be that we use humor because we lack adequate (not having a good spelling day) emotional coping mechanisms for dealing with the brutal reality that is out there.

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quote: I didn't think DFA was funny either, but playing internet cop is kind of a lost cause, especialy on this site. I had a hard time holding back a while ago when some dick was posting those photos of the special olimpics, but I figured what's the use, people will say and think what they want... Yeah, I see your point. I'm outa this one.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: The Doctor understands what y'all are saying. DFA is not about to become hyperactively self-censoring, however, just to avoid offending one or two people once in a while. That kind of attitude, taken to it's logical extreme, would result in almost nothing being funny because it might offend someone. Talk to 20 people, and you'll surely find 20 things that most people would joke about but that each those people finds offensive. Furthermore, the Doctor would like to clarify that his comment was about a totally random act of violence that he figured most anyone would find ridiculous, which was the point. The Doctor wasn't joking about parents beating their kids, or any number of other more realistic, serious, and likely forms of child abuse, because that shit truly isn't funny. DFA would have said what he said had we been talking about nuns, mothers, dogs, Trask, or anyone, because the idea of kicking some random person in the teeth for laughing at you is so prima facie ridiculous that it's hard to assign any serious value to it. What a fucking backpeddling cop-out. You didn't say "random person": "Also, if small children laugh at you, just kick them in the teeth..." I'd like to see you explain "a lack of serious value" in your post to a female student of mine who came to school with teeth missing because her dad punched her in the mouth. Comments like yours don't offend me, they piss me off.

Thanks Chuck.

quote: Originally posted by Jake: Paint is no good. I go to the mountains to get away from people and take in the beauty. Spray paint doesn't belong on rocks on the top of a mountain. A little checking around and you will figure out how to get down. What next, painted arrows showing you where the route goes and how to get to the top? When I did Fisher Chimneys several years ago, there was a bright orange arrow sprayed onto the rocks, pointing to the entrance gully to the chimneys. Is that still there?

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: Hey, it could have been pornographic rather then violent... Either way, Scott sits from upon a very high horse... No, I work with kids who get physical abuse at home. They don't think it's a joke either. Yeah, maybe I'm being overly-sensitive about it, and maybe I saw the sarcasm, but from where I dwell(which isn't up on a high horse), it's not a funny subject and I refuse to silently let somebody, even jokingly, advocate abuse of children. So, if you think "Also, if small children laugh at you, just kick them in the teeth when their parents aren't looking" is funny... Fuck you.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: quote:Originally posted by ScottP: quote:Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: (snip of other non-funny stuff) Also, if small children laugh at you, just kick them in the teeth when their parents aren't looking. Little bastards. Advocating violence toward children is not funny, dickhead. It's an interesting coincidence that an adult recently punched a kid in the mouth and got beat to death for it. Probably why you'd do it while nobody was looking. That was blatant sarcasm, pal, so take a few deep breaths and try to relax. Big difference between advocating violence toward children and making sarcastic remarks.And I'm supposed to pull sarcasm out of written words without the non-verbal inflection? Give me a break. Either way, there's absolutely nothing funny about the idea- realized or not -of kicking a child in the mouth. I don't expect your pompous ass to admit you are wrong, but you are wrong.

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: Herman Munster rox Yeah, and Marilyn ain't so bad either.

quote: Originally posted by Dr Flash Amazing: Um, a quick check of Mr. Caveman's address reveals a highly suspect zip code. Also a street address that is the same as the Munsters...

Bosch 24-Volt Battery operated drill with depth gauge attached....$800 Spare Batt...$45 Hilti double fluted one-piece SDS bit, Carbide tipped....$20 (half life) 10 Fixed Double Wedge bolts....$40 The look on your face when you're caught using a power drill in a wilderness area....priceless.