Stefan

Finishing this Iraq thing is not a good idea. It became apparently a bad idea to me when the terrorists where doing and continue to use those bombs in civilian areas and against the military. Obviously the terrorists needed places to sleep, eat, and crap. It meant they were living "somewhere". And that "somewhere" was in civilian houses. If they were in civilian houses, and the neighbors knew, then what it meant was the the communities where these terrorists were at were supporting them. Even aquiescence is support. If the community was supporting terrorists in some way, then obviously the US was not wanted by those in the community. Let the Iraqi people decide their own path. Then I have had to ask myself when this thing goes to civil war, is that genocide? If it was genocide would I support stopping it?

thanks for sharing mvs. I read your stuff on summitpost.org good stuff you doing. you making me jealous! keep it up.

Read: GWB. When McCain is elected, I will do my job the same as I have under GWB. The only thing I can do is train myself all day everyday to be the best I can to do what my country wills me to do. Scott 6/4/08 yes, he is choosing to continue doing that based on his personal question and answer sessions. can you take a big reach and open your mind that even right wingers think about things even if they don't come up with the same answers you do. Yes, my point exactly. He has chosen to blindly follow. That is his choice.

Darfur has everything to do with Scotts thinking, because we as a country are ignoring the genocide. Scott said on 6/2/08 right... just as we did in Germany after outsing another genocidal dictator who invaded his neighbor. Just as we did in Japan. We are still there now. Scott said on 6/3/08 True, we could have stayed out of Iraq and let them live under dictatorial rule and be victims of genocide, but I truly think that Iraq will be better for it and perhaps the entire region. History can be the only measure of this though. So if Scott thinks that what we did was right to quash genocide, then why doesn’t he think we should stop the genocide in Darfur? I believe he will argue we should not leave Iraq and let the genocide continue in Darfur because we can’t solve all the worlds problems.

Read: GWB. When McCain is elected, I will do my job the same as I have under GWB. The only thing I can do is train myself all day everyday to be the best I can to do what my country wills me to do. Scott 6/4/08

Rob: case in point. Fuck off Stefan. Love you too girl! and lets keep ignoring the genocide in Darfur!

I for one think that Afghanistan is where the rebuilding should be at. Not Iraq. I feel sorry for Scott for blindly following leaders instead of questioning authority.

billcoe: that picture looks like it was taken from your camera. I bet you are involved somehow.

Yeah well, I did 114 miles last week on my bike, so there!

This is the most telling of the entire story: "GM hasn't had an annual profit since 2004." What kind of company is that?

i wonder when was the last time she got laid.

I knew somebody who had a helicopter operation doing that stuff. He talked about how they had to remove fillings out of their teeth for this job. I thought that was interesting.

I have taken an 8 foot fall and cracked a rib. I have taken a 35 fall and broke both my ankles. I don't like falling...so any fall at any length is dangerous. p.s. "huge" is an adjective. Adjectives are subjective.

hey ignorant fool read what people wrote peshaw. don't have time. hell I don't have time to read scott's book. well, really, I don't care. I would rather watch porn.

Nobody on this board has read the book by Scott McClellan. Nobody. Read the book and then make an opinion. Ignorant fools.

I believe the west fork Methow river trail is intermediate. I have biked it and I liked it.

I just would love to see a picture of these people.

"The ocean is my spirit." He forgot to say, "The ocean kills!" Thank you for being my invisible anchor Raindawg.

I like the picture on the summit with the rope bending in the wind. kinda cool showing what wind does with a rope.

whimps. nuf said.

fricken a. thanks for breaking our stereotyping.

most excellent read. thanks for sharing your minor epic!

-the earth is warming up. fact, and everybody agrees to this data. -not everybody agrees it is due to humans. fact. -so why not try to stop the earth from warming up? who cares if it is humans or not. if you can't stop it, then what are the alternative plans? (thank god for $4 a gallon gas) this is a blessing to the environmentalists....I am sure they are chearing on for $5

there are plenty of peaks to do right now. you just gotta know where to go with the road conditions. everything up the mid fork snoqualmie stuff off of the mt. Baker highway se olympics search and you will find

Rumr. Take a chance. Quit playing your life as safe--even at work. You are a climber for godsakes.