Stefan

And Evander Holyfield. too bad for the champ

If a company threw a lot of money at a product they thought was going to sell, and threw a lot of more money at the product, and the product never sold, the company would quickly exit taking a write off on their financial books. They have a responsibility to the stockholders to increase equity. At least the company tried.

Erden, I read your updates and I am always amazed. I can't believe you are even typing. Holy cow.

Actually, Iran has said continuously that they could build their own weapon and are against anyone saying they can't--or something very similar to that. Iran has never said or something very similar, "We will use nuclear weapons on the U.S." Your response is not accurate.

Would I rather we go to war than have Iran (who just pretty much told the World he was going to kill us right after he offed Israel) posess nuclear devices? Bet yer sweet tofu loven' ass. Then you are against the philosophy of "innocent until proven guilty." Which means you are against one of the values in the US justice system. Possessing nuclear weapons does not make one guilty. The use of nuclear weapons does...but not the possesssion of them. How about we just round up people who we think "might" murder somebody? Th US justice system requires an action to take place. What are you fighting for if you do not believe in one of the prime values/philosphies in the US justice system?

Now those other concerns are important. Before the invasion of Iraq...they had to come up with the nuclear threat concern. So tell me, do you believe in the philosophy of preemptive military action to stop these potential concerns?

Which comes back to my Darfur thing. Would you go to war in Darfur becuase of genocide? or Would you go to war in Iraq becuase of genocide AND oil? If you had a choice which one would you choose? The US chose to go to war in Iraq for those two major things and others. Hell, there are other reasons for Darfur too, stability in the region would be "nice" politically. Which makes for an important analysis and not oversimplification. Genocide is NOT an important reason to go to war becuase the US has not chosen to follow that path with Rwanda and Darfur. Which means oil. Oil is important, becuase it is valuable resource. Which means this war is about oil and not the value of preventing genocide.

I will add to my own: Stefan never served in the military. Stefan wishes he would have and has the utmost respect for those who have chosen that path. Stefan is indebted to those who have served, is serving, and will serve. Thanks.

Finishing this Iraq thing is not a good idea. It became apparently a bad idea to me when the terrorists where doing and continue to use those bombs in civilian areas and against the military. Obviously the terrorists needed places to sleep, eat, and crap. It meant they were living "somewhere". And that "somewhere" was in civilian houses. If they were in civilian houses, and the neighbors knew, then what it meant was the the communities where these terrorists were at were supporting them. Even aquiescence is support. If the community was supporting terrorists in some way, then obviously the US was not wanted by those in the community. Let the Iraqi people decide their own path. Then I have had to ask myself when this thing goes to civil war, is that genocide? If it was genocide would I support stopping it?

thanks for sharing mvs. I read your stuff on summitpost.org good stuff you doing. you making me jealous! keep it up.

Read: GWB. When McCain is elected, I will do my job the same as I have under GWB. The only thing I can do is train myself all day everyday to be the best I can to do what my country wills me to do. Scott 6/4/08 yes, he is choosing to continue doing that based on his personal question and answer sessions. can you take a big reach and open your mind that even right wingers think about things even if they don't come up with the same answers you do. Yes, my point exactly. He has chosen to blindly follow. That is his choice.

Darfur has everything to do with Scotts thinking, because we as a country are ignoring the genocide. Scott said on 6/2/08 right... just as we did in Germany after outsing another genocidal dictator who invaded his neighbor. Just as we did in Japan. We are still there now. Scott said on 6/3/08 True, we could have stayed out of Iraq and let them live under dictatorial rule and be victims of genocide, but I truly think that Iraq will be better for it and perhaps the entire region. History can be the only measure of this though. So if Scott thinks that what we did was right to quash genocide, then why doesn’t he think we should stop the genocide in Darfur? I believe he will argue we should not leave Iraq and let the genocide continue in Darfur because we can’t solve all the worlds problems.

Read: GWB. When McCain is elected, I will do my job the same as I have under GWB. The only thing I can do is train myself all day everyday to be the best I can to do what my country wills me to do. Scott 6/4/08

Rob: case in point. Fuck off Stefan. Love you too girl! and lets keep ignoring the genocide in Darfur!

I for one think that Afghanistan is where the rebuilding should be at. Not Iraq. I feel sorry for Scott for blindly following leaders instead of questioning authority.

billcoe: that picture looks like it was taken from your camera. I bet you are involved somehow.

Yeah well, I did 114 miles last week on my bike, so there!

This is the most telling of the entire story: "GM hasn't had an annual profit since 2004." What kind of company is that?

i wonder when was the last time she got laid.

I knew somebody who had a helicopter operation doing that stuff. He talked about how they had to remove fillings out of their teeth for this job. I thought that was interesting.

I have taken an 8 foot fall and cracked a rib. I have taken a 35 fall and broke both my ankles. I don't like falling...so any fall at any length is dangerous. p.s. "huge" is an adjective. Adjectives are subjective.

hey ignorant fool read what people wrote peshaw. don't have time. hell I don't have time to read scott's book. well, really, I don't care. I would rather watch porn.

Nobody on this board has read the book by Scott McClellan. Nobody. Read the book and then make an opinion. Ignorant fools.

I believe the west fork Methow river trail is intermediate. I have biked it and I liked it.

I just would love to see a picture of these people.