Lambone

lesson learned... 1st-don't backclean your RURPS and #1 heads... 2nd-leave the bolt above the anchor clipped... The biner was that funky DMM biner with the plastic thing that is supposed to keep it from cross loading.

quote: Originally posted by iain: dog better be mellow as kenny g. for multipitch stuff. nothing worse than a barking mutt as the owner tries to calm it down from 1 pitch up as he belays the leader True that... A friend of mine just leaves her dog untied to roam, not sure if that is anymore responsible... of course it all depends on the circumstances, length of the climb, and area...

Yeah, good point DFA. It seems that the cool crag dogs are the ones who are well trained all around. What about multi-pitch climbs? Do you bring the dog and tie them up, or let them roam, or leave them at home...

I am a new dog owner. I've had dogs before, when I was young, but never during my climbing days. Of course, I want to take my dog out doors with me, climbing and/or otherwise. But I have also been very annoyed by other peoples dogs at crags in the past. Does anybody have any thoughts or tips on how to train your pup to be a good crag dog? Or how about high in the hills? What are some do's and don't's based on your experience? All opinions are welcome, but I'd prefer if this didn't turn into an argument about whether people should bring their dogs climbing or not. Cheers

how was your climb mike?

don't go down that road man...

Totaly, I don't think I'd leave her at the base of a multi pitch route by herself...

awh Amy's cool once you learn her language, plus she's not the manager in Seattle anymore...

I have read that both Collies and GP's are often used as rescue dogs...

the climbing gym might be hireing as well

Checked out that book on the web...looks cool, I'll have to take a closer look. There are so many puppy books out there, it's rediculous...

Congrats dude...good to see ya sprayin again!

The routes are around M7 or 8 I hear. And not super steep. They are well bolted and top ropable, go for Caveman, you'd be suprised... I'm looking forward to checking it out this year.

Cool thanks for the thoughts yall, by the way... She is a 3 month old Border Collie/ Great Pyrenese that we fell in love with at th Human Society in Vancouver, Wa. She seemed super cool. We pick her up tommorow, can't wait!

It's right by Pan-Dome Falls Cavey (to the right I think), there are several lines.

I agree, although i've gotten some killer work outs drytooling in bouldering caves on plastic holds. Great for the abs...or beer gut, as the case may be...

quote: Originally posted by Greg W: quote:Originally posted by rbw1966: Works great if you are hauling. If not why bother? From what I read (might have been John Long), a group of three could move faster because while the second is cleaning, the third jugs another line and is ready to lead as soon as he gets to the belay so belay changeover time is minimal. The downside is that I think you have to carry almost two racks to make it worthwhile. Long is pretty much right, if you've got a system down. I've found that you waste a shit load of time fucking with ropes and stuff on the first day, and it gradualy gets faster as you move up the wall.

Greg, You should have came to my aid clinic last night that didn't happen because no-one came... 3 is good fun cause you have a bro to chill and smoke cigarettes or whatever with at the belay. But for newbies it's usualy slower cause you have 30% more shit to get clusterfucked. if everyone is dialed you can have someone leading for more of the time. Hauling is worse cause you have more weight.

I drytooled at merrymoore once, in the rain...it was kinda fun, people gave me weird looks. I'd say the only "official" dry tool area is at Cascade Crags where they charge you to drytool "officialy." I wouldn't rush off to go dry tooling though lawgoddess. It won't help your ice skills much, and most likely you will just dull your picks and bash yourself in the forehead. just do alot of pullups off the dowls at VW. Keep ice bouldering untill shit freezes up in Lilooet, and don't top rope where people want to lead. I sorta agree with the lawgod, get some experience doing it before you go spraying all over the net about ice climbing. But he was way lame about the way he said that.

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: woods where my new puppy can romp around. My dog is aggro and will attack other dogs including yours. dood I've seen your puppy...my puppy will kick your puppies ass! Bring it punk...

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: quote:Originally posted by Lambone: woods where my new puppy can romp around. My dog is aggro and will attack other dogs including yours. dood I've seen your puppy...my puppy will kick your puppies ass! Bring it punk...

I'd prefer real cracks over concrete, and woods where my new puppy can romp around. How about index, toxic shock area is cool.

No one is signed up yet but I'll be down there with my gear anyway. If your interested see ya around 7:30.

One thing I don't like about the Integral is that the mesh door is on the outside. Snow and ice 'nshit end up sticking to it...