Lambone

please start a new thread to discuss gear and technology, this thread is about three guys figting for survival.

good news! come on guys, go get 'em!

damn

before the climbers will be able to commit to descending (or they are found) they will likely have to sit through torturous brief clear windows that shut down arohnd them in moments after they've mustered the energy to get up and move. they should probly wait for the support teams and try to signal them as best they can.

4 days, 3 nights past our due date. all-be-it not nearly as harsh as these conditions,still cold wet and white-out just the same. we were well enough off and didn't want people coming for us but the rescue op was out of our hands. the endless waiting for the storm to break was the worst part.

come on guys keep it positive! there are still three men up there. spray aboput their mistakes when they are down safe and warm. trust me, there is nothing worse then sitting in a hole on top of a volcano knowing there are people out there looking for you and your family and friends are worried sick. been there done that. they know they fucked up, nuff said. nobody loves the master of the obvious.

Off, Perhaps because it's winter....which is a more unsual time for this sort of thing (getting stuck on the summit of Hood anyway). And Christmas is right around the corner...and 'tis the season for stories of people getting lost and (hopefully) reunited with loved ones.

I recently visited the Loast Rocks Bouldering area in NorCal. It is pretty spectacular. When I got home I started looking for more info on the area, and realized i went in the wrong way and like a total dolt walked right through the local tribes land(Yurok Tribe), and it sounds like they don't want us beanie wearing pad totin chalk usin boulderers on their beach, although there are no signs or any indication to keep off the land. Anyway, here is the right way to get there: From the Access Fund website: http://www.accessfund.org/regions/res/CA Lost Rocks Access Alert! To ease access concerns, please enter Lost Rocks from the either the Flinthead Ridge walk-in campground area and use the trail there to reach the boulders or from the southern end at High Bluff. Both trails are off the Coastal Scenic Drive. The less gnarly approach is via High Bluff with just a small 4th class section at the very end where it dumps on to the beach a second time at the true southern edge of Lost Rocks. North along the beach from the Flinthead Trail is private land and Yurok reservation land and is off limits to climbing. The Yurok are very much opposed to climbing on their ancestral lands in Redwood National Park/Lost Rocks. Some individuals are choosing voluntarily not to climb there. It is public land so if you do climb there please be very respectful and practice a leave no trace ethic! Alternative areas for bouldering without access issues: Osagon Rocks in Prairie Creek Redwoods State Park—hike 8 miles or ride your mountain bike on a sweet/mellow 25 mile loop, just watch out for elk! Houda Pt. and Moonstone County Park—Just north of Moonstone ½ mile is Houda, bring your surfboard too! Fun beach bouldering, just watch out for loose rock here and there. Also, an interesting article w/photos here: http://www.northcoastjournal.com/123004/news1230.html It has become common knowledge among local climbers to stay off of Split Rock out of what we have felt is respect to the Yurok. Through conversations with park officials we know to get to the boulders via the Flinthead Ridge Trail and not through the Yurok ceremonial dance ground. The challenges arise when climbers from elsewhere visit the area. There are no signs to indicate which trails to use and which rocks to climb -- invariably trails and rocks that should not be climbed are, and not out of disrespect but because there is no indication that it is not OK. Local climbers thought it could be beneficial to show that we understand that Lost Rocks is sacred to the Yurok and that we want to climb in an informed and respectful way.

I love Trask

Jens, try pulling out more on the tool instead of downward. That should help a little. You need a better stick for the tool to stay put though...

Is there any new important information? Did rescures turn up any signs of the climbers today? Tracks, equipment? Did they reach the summit?

the p.c. term is RATS please....gym rats.

well, "good" being a relative term... we have members now, and a good base of regulars. last night there were about 30 climbers here at one point. a far cry from Vertical World where we'd have as many as 300 in the gym over a night. It's been over 2 years since I've gotten a paycheck (thank god for my loving and patient wife). I'm guessing another year will pass befor we have a profitable year, and probly another 10-15 years before we recieve any return on our investment. I think of the gym as more of a community service, just trying to hang in there and keep the lights on. Southern Oregon is slowly developing some sort of climbing community...%95 noobs. If you're looking for a get rich quick scheme, cross Climbing Gym off the list. howver I am as strong as ever and have fun every day. roll into work at noon and pretty much play and chat with climbers. it's my dream job, my favorite part is coaching a climbing team of 11 kids and watching their climbing skills develop....one I'm proud to say is one of the best in the state for his age group.

Hi Will, business is rocking now that winter is here. Especially since the mountain isn't open yet. Things are good, havin fun. Visit on your next trip to the valley, were only 5min off I-5. Cheers, bone p.s. after our Glacier Peak experience I can totaly empathize with the poor bastards stuck on Hood right now. It makes me cringe to think if our party of three had been split up during that storm.

makes sense did the injured guy say what his injuries were? I haven't seen it. just curious

no shit sherlock "I think splitting up may have been a bad call." Isn't really speculation, it is statement of fact, as now rescures are searching for two missing parties.

still waiting for you to BASH me Mr. Phil...are a set or rolleyes the best you can do? Didn't they get a cell phone call out? Why then would the two partners need to descend for help. We don't have all the pieces of the puzzle. But a little speculation isn't such a terrible thing, it is human nature to speculate about what happened.

It is supposed to be generaly clearing slightly through the day. A little visibility will make all the difference in the world for all the folks involved. In a white out it'd be like a wild goose chase hunting the whole mountain for a couple of snowcaves.

What about DirtyHarry's post: You gunna bash him too Dr Phil?

fine I'll edit it, fuck off...people are critisizing them for shopping at REI in that thread, sheesh. your right, hindsight in this case is not ok, it was 1 in the morning and I was half asleep. still, now rescuers are looking for two seperate parties because they split up.

Jens, Get on a TR and run a bunch of laps. Practice climbing without griping the tools hardly at all. Find out what the bare minimum for hanging on is.... and shake out alot, the biggest benefit of leashless imho.

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I feel for those guys tonight. I'm mostly concerned for the guy alone at the summit. They likely packed him in good with all their warm stuff and fuel. any word on what his injuries are? best wishes

john, I might be up for it.

This CA-MRSA stuff is pretty scary. A friend of mine got it (sleeping with an infected person), and yes it does look like a big spider bite at first...then it gets really bad. He was in the hospital and went through treatment for months, and I guess like Herpes it never leaves your system completely. He still climbs indoors in Portland. As a climbing gym owner it is even more scary. If this were to become an endemic problem specific to climbing gyms, it could ruin us. I think gym managers can do alot to keep their gyms clean and sanitarty. Unfortunately alot of gyms don't because they have lazy employees working for minimum wage who won't clean bathrooms, etc. However, cleaning all the holds every day would be impossible for any gym. We clean holds when we change routes out, but those holds are up for 3-4 months. So whay can you do? Not much really...to completely eliminate the risk of infection of any kind from touching the holds. Spray out shoes with disinfectant, wipe down fitness equipment, clean the floors and bathrooms, door handles, drinking fountain, etc. It is a daily struggle to keep a climbing gym clean. All I can say is thank god we don't have pea gravel and wash your hands alot!