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Iain, good job man. thanks alot for your hard efforts.I'm sorry the outcome wasn't better for you guys and everyone yesterday. after getting rescued by folks like you I have one hell of an appreciation for what you do. Someday I hope to follow in your example. cheers bro

seemed odd they'd need a 5:1... but it's not really important

no youre a fuckin asshole though, stfu and let the idiots pray and get rid of that ugly mug shot... and happy birthday bro!

iain, were you up there?

yes, many do however at the time of their climb I think avy conditions were minimal. it wasn't until after the big storm that they got bad.

I don't think anybody realized it was an anchor until the picture was posted.

gottcha steven, wait...I got it, bring dolphins in after the flamethrowers! see if we work together we can figure this out!

not really, but they arn't nescesary. if you can veiw this site, then you can view the live streaming broadcast at the link I posted several times. thanks I don't know why gappertimmy is opposed to it.

grace, with respect to your post, an MLU would not have saved Kelly James. The discussion on personal locating devices is here. please go there to continue your mission in convincing all climbers that they are nescesary. PLU thread

from the oregonian: Are "the Gullies" the same as the North Face Gullies (one of which being their ascent route)?

no they should start at the summit and work down you idiot...

no shit, wtf!

Ok, I guess your the Moderator. I'm happy to abide whatever the rules are. Sorry for the infringement. gappertimmy is the administrator/owner of this site.

"I for one don't want to see this place try and compete with RC.com or NWHikers for tender sincerity in the grand scheme of things" thank god

yes jfmctlaw is just transcribing a news channel. see it live here: http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=57406&live=yes families giving a statement

shut up bob

live here http://www.kgw.com/sharedcontent/VideoPlayer/videoPlayer.php?vidId=57406&live=yes

I hope the weather sticks around for another couple days...

I'm trying to be respectfull dude. I made one dumb comment about people going away, and apologized for it. I've got nothing but respect and admiration for all those involved with the search. I'm hoping for the best today along with everyone else, good luck guys!

yeah, of course

I think anything is possible at this point. They may have been storm bound on the summit and just picked a direction to head down other then the face they just climbed up. No one knows if they had a compass or map to navigate. They could have gone any direction in the whiteout. The scope of the search is now nearly the entire mountain.

a valid theory. it has happened to me, I can tell you that much. but your assumtion about Kelly James is uncalled for and extremely disrespectful. I am sure the rescuers have been investigating the scene and will have the best indication of why there were two snowcaves dug. my guess is he tried to self rescue in the storm but didn't make it far in the brutal conditions and dug in again. no one is to blame for underestimating the weather. it has happened to the best of all mountain climbers. some, unfortunately are not so lucky. and by the way, I think we will know why once they bring the other two home tommorow.

mountain jumper, search for "cluck's" post a few pages back. he has posted the only firsthand info today, after coming down off the mountain. yeah well, sorry about that...I think we were all a bit upset earlier today...not one of my better days.

It has been proven that many of the people getting into trouble on Cascade Volcanoes are traveling in from out of state. They likely have been planning for months, have unrefundable plane tickets and dreams of success...and are therefore willing to take more risk with the weather. Local climbers are usually more flexible with their schedules and more likely to postpone a trip and wait for a better weather window. This type of event is not all that uncommon in the PNW, just more highly publisized for some reason. Year after year people from out of state are lost on Rainier, Baker, Shasta and other peaks. Threads like this are even common on this web site, there are usually one or two rescue threads a year. The diffrence being this time cascadeclimbers.com was quoted by major media sources. This is somewhat of an assumption on my part, but I think it is fairly accurate.

Joseph, mattp will go through and use his discression tommorow. right now he's probly in bed.