mattp

The Mowich Face and the Willis Wall are not even in the same book, in my book.

Do you think that is the mark of a good climber, or a good alpine climber? I'm not putting it or anybody down, but I don't think that particular route is in most books as a test piece.

We look forward to it. At least some of us, anyway.

That'll give you time to scare up a volleyball team or maybe go out snafflehound hunting for the barbeque.

I'd like to see you guys but I'll be out of town most of this week. DOn't know what anybody else may say, though.

And you don't have a clue about what and who you are putting down on a weekly if not daily basis on cc.com. When was the last time you climbed the South Face of Prussik Peak? Numbah Ten at Index? Have you ever met the climbers you attack by name? How many of them? Do you sign your attacks with YOUR name? Try posting some trip reports and telling us how much you love climbing some time to balance out some of the rest of it. Meanwhile, carry on. As I posted last time you were miffed when I commented on one of your rude attacks: you have a right to your opinion and I even defend your right to post here once in a while.

It sounds to me as if "they" or somebody did a little work on it, then. That's good news! Let's hit it in two or three weeks.

I agree with everybody else. Whats up with guys who put folks down for using tape? Among anybody who isn't striving for some kind of "expert" status, it has been fairly common practice for 30 years and it doesn't hurt you any. I for one am happy to see the video even if I know I could make something so incredibly much better that everybody would join me in calling the OP a pathetic loser.

Nice job on that topo! Thanks.

A ranger told me they were going to send somebody up there to fix up that low spot last week. It sounds as if they may have done so. Was water still flowing over the road at about the 4 mile mark? The Forest Service has not cleared the road beyond the 3:00 trailhead for over ten years. I've participated in more than one work party cutting branches and filling potholes and once we even hauled a load of crushed rock up there but that gets expensive real quick. For Subaru, they did a little maintenance on the Exfoliation Dome fork whenever that was - four or five years ago. I have to take care of family business this weekend but I'd be up for a work party and climbing campout sometime soon. The road to Dreamer will require a lot of work. We could reclaim the road to the parking spot for Exfoliation Dome with a more reasonable amount of effort, I think (though in reality the present blockage probably ads no more than a half hour to that approach even if it makes it into a trip most climbers will not want to undertake).

Sign me up for a room in that villa!

A little perspective may be hard to take but I think Puget has a point. I like the Cascades as much as anybody and have climbed more routes on Rainier than most posters here. I've also traveled a fair bit and climbed in ranges elsewhere. The Cascades have their charm, but I can't understand anybody claiming any "best" status or even thinking that the big R is some god of a mountain. Seriously: if I was going to fly somewhere and rent a car to climb something it'd be in Alaska or British Columbia or Yosemite, not Rainier or even the Picketts. The same goes for cc.com. I post near as much as anybody around and I strongly support the site. I promote it and organize cc.com events and have made lots of friends here. But we've got some serious warts and cc culture kind of sucks. As PP said: on any given day there's more talk about the size of TVash' tits than climbing and with regard to most climbs theres more name calling and jive than beta and stoke. We are all a bunch of pathetic losers in reality, and I include myself in that statement.

Don't get too emotional on us. Seattle is still full of Volvo's and it rains all the time. Hell: it's looking like it'll be raining on this holiday weekend.

Next thing you know, they'll be busting us for not having a garbage bag or hugging. I can't find the trash bag law, but here's the hugging one:

252 posts in a week is worth a finger or two just in itself!

Knucklehead that you are, if I had some Islay I'd tip one your way too.

Now here I wonder: do you really see cops hiding in the bushes trying to catch people who don't wear their seatbelts? Fircrest must really be a pretty tame neighborhood! Here in the Big City they are looking for drunks and people who run red lights. I kinda wish they'd crack down on those clueless idiots who are chatting on their cell phones and holding up traffic, though. 'Bastards me miss at least three stoplights today.

I've climbed on both formations right after a rainfall but I bet it got a pretty good dowsing last night, and I can only imagine it is going to get more. If you want bone dry rock, that is probably not the place to find it.

GHSW may well be a troll altogether, and certainly she is trolling in this thread, but I would say that lurking on cc.com would actually probably be within the job description of a recreation manager type employee. Talking smack on the Internet might violate some Federal regulations but there wouldn't be a whole lot to this spray forum if nobody ever abused their work access to the Internet.

I don't know the facts, Sobo, but I wonder if there are enough timber sales in, say, the Mount Baker Snoqualmie National Forest, to support the road and trail system that they have even if they DID charge higher rates on the timber sales. I have not seen may loaded log trucks coming out of the woods in recent years. I agree with everything else you say about how the NW Forest Pass is a bad program that should never have been adopted and wasn't given much of a public process, though. I also agree that it appears that most of the fees are NOT used to support the road and trail infrastructure, and the problems we face with roads and trails going unmaintained is largely a matter of budget priorities and politics.

Great TR. Thanks, Mr. Klenke. Nooksack, if not the hardest summit to attain, certainly gets a lot of coolness points. It is a stunning looking thing. Maybe something along the crest of the Picketts is harder, but I'm not sure.

You're more than a good egg, Carolyn. You are a REALLY GOOD egg. Latte is a very lucky beast and, I think, you are pretty lucky too. After all, you've had the privilege of spending time with Latte.

Johndavidjr, your post appears to have been the first to offer a personal or tangential attack, based on the idea that sailBOI had some crazy stuff linked on his web page. (I agree that Fairweather's posts continue this trend.) Lets see if in this forum (access issues) we can talk about access issues instead of who is more of a nutcase. In my book, you both lose and it is "outside the scope of this forum." Take that argument to spray.

True that, but I'm wondering: why didn't Bush order him targeted back in 2001? Clearly, in announcing our plans for two months in advance, capturing Bin Ladin either dead or alive was not our objective.