TimL

dumdum - thats not the point. I'm with MisterE on this one. It sounds like a half ass job. Go Dog Go and Vision are both super mega classic routes. Its not like they are not including some obscure climb. In general, I think the fence and the erosion control measure are a good thing, but this was really stupid not extending it to Go Dog Go.

JJA - Next time we are out, we'll have to get shots of the Playboy bunny climbing team. I heard they are visiting Index soon!

AlpineK - I have to agree, Jim Bridwell's slide show wasn't the best, but he pictures were real climbing shots. Scott Burkes was pretty bad as well, but he made up for it with enthusiasm and some good pictures. He's a real nice guy, maybe crazy, but nice. Give JJA a break. He is just being good natured like always. Furthermore, taking shots at folks on the internet is bad style. Why flip shit to a climber when they are just trying to make money to do what they love? All the playa haters STFU!

Check your pm's

I think you've climbed it before, but Easter Overhang was super good and wide at the top.

Then STFU. Give the kid a break. If he keeps up with the sport, and somebody turns him to the darkside , he's going to be really good.

I have the 1996 version of the CAG and have some confusion about some of the routes on the West Face. The route mentioned in the CAG is called the West Face Direct Route. This is obviously the same route described in Cascade Select. Beckey mentions there are some variations to the West Face but it seems the topo describing the differences in routes are fairly vague. The major variation that is detailed was opened by Lee Cunningham and Monte Westlund in July of 1984 and looks to be located between the 1980 route (Cascade Select 1) and the Northwest Buttress. When looking at the face, this variation didn't seem that apparent. Could this variation be to the right of the 1980 route? Are there any variations to the right of the 1980? Besides the 1984 variation, are there any other variations that exist that are not described in the Beckey guide? I was up there a while ago and got confused. The topo in the Beckey guide does not match what the face looks like. Thanks for any and all beta.

Whats that supposed to mean catshit...Oh...I forgot...your an alpine hardman......

UTW. We were on Green Dragon. The crux pitch is really fun. I thought it was close to C1+/C2. No way is it C3. Pretty much every placement seemed bomber. I can't think of any reason why anyone should bring pins or heads on the route. It was a spectaular day.

Guide says 11a. It feels more like mid 5.10. Its just one bouldery move if I remember correct.

Depending on what you will use them for, I would say painfully tight. They stretch a fair amount. I usually own two pairs. ONe new pair thats painfully tight for hard free climbing. Then an older resoled pair that I've had for a while that I use for alpine. Most importantly, Mythos stretch a fair amount. How was Index yesterday?

What are you doing away from class? Go to school, study and come to Smith this weekend. Never mind that silly pursuit of playing around on little rocks.

I'll be at Smith either Thur-Sunday or Friday-Sunday. It depends when I can break free from my rigorious work schedule.

Yup...I guess that means I have to jump on the Sunshine Dihedral.

You say these things....but will they happen?

I know. You down graded all those pitches in your old handy dandy Smith rock guide that I still need to return to you.

Anybody climb this route before? It looks good but I've heard mixed reviews. Some say its ran out and hard while others say its awesome. Anybody have an opinion...beta? RuMR? E-Rock?

Ask Checkmark.....he has many cams!

Crossfire has maybe six bolts after the crack. A little sporty in sections but the falls are clean. Its a steep wall. Amazing route in a great position.

Yeah...try checkmark. Also, I'm thinking about heading to Yosemite during late May. Thinking about the Nose and other classic long free climbs. If anyone is down will be down there during the same time, PM me. Distel....you down for some more crack?

Check out mountainwerks.org. I believe Alex and MVS both route good trip reports.

Climbed it on TR once without falling then went in for the redpoint on the next lead. Stupid foot popped off at the crux. I was pissed. Next time it should go. Gym Tuesday maybe?

Thanks to all for such a great weekend.

I was there but didn't see redpoint. Its awesome though! Congrats Ian! BTW - Rudy, I thought you were supposed to be at Smith this weekend.