wdietsch

quote: Originally posted by iain: Is there any chance BD will ever make a straight tool again rather than all this modern art curvy bullshit? Whatever happened to the prophets? discontinued ... but you can still buy the staight shafts off BD'd website for $139.00

So richard noggin, are you willing to sell (2) 8.5 x 60m, dry 1/2 ropes for $164, tax (shipping) included? If so perhaps on my next biz trip up north I will be checking in with you. Don't get me wrong, I agree that a good local shop has it's place. Down here in Portland I shop @ Climbaxe, US Outdoor Store, The Mountain Shop, Next Adventure and yes even the "Evil Empire" but I also order shit from Mountain Tools, Mountain Gear, Northern Mountian Supply, Campmor, Sierra TP ..... etc, etc...This whole internet thing is really no different from the mail order issue which started taking off in the mid/late seventy's... tax-no tax ... shipping cost... what if it does not fit..... As for shoes and clothes, if they don't fit send them back, pretty standard routine. IMO the Euro mfgr's trying to get gear into the US have been getting #$%@'d for a long time by our country's trade tarriffs. Ever travel up to Dru's neck of the woods and buy gear at MEC? Same story. Years ago you could buy (mail order) CM Lasers from MEC for $33 USD, ... not anymore. I have a pair of LaSportiva Nepal Tops I bought in Europe and payed $220. I can mail order them today at near the same price. Why would I pay US retail for them @ $350-375? You want to run me a deal on those as well? One thing that really burns my ass is BD telling someone like Barrbabes that they can't sell back into the US market. It is pretty clear BD tried to "buy" some European market share by dumping product at a low price and it boomeranged on them. It's very similar to the Camp-Chounard (now BD) connection ... why would I pay $12.00 for a BD LA when I can get a Camp LA for $6.00? They are made in the same facility in Italy. My point is that you and the shop owners are somewhat stuck in the middle between the price savy consumer and our current government regs and the US manufaturers/distrubution network. I do not doubt that you mean to serve your client well and I hope your shop prospers. Sincerely, Wes

Anyone been into the Goat Rocks in the last week or so? Particularly interested in access to Section 3 Lake and the Bear Creek Mountain trailhead, is the road snow free? [ 07-16-2002, 12:26 PM: Message edited by: wdietsch ]

The article I read mentioned that they were going to discountinue the Shriek (no great loss IMO) and the Viper would be positioned between the Cobra and the Rage. I'll stick with my old BP's and save my pennys for one of those "Subarus" trask is posting.

jhamaker ..... thanks

FWIW ....Apparently coming out this fall. The Rage will now be the "low end tool" http://www.neclimbs.com/wmr_pix/20020404/BD_Viper.jpg

I'll second the vote for gearexpress.com. Great prices with a great selection. Climbaxe.com website is also a good deal however I personally find the selection somewhat limted. if you are in the Portland area you are better off making a trip to their retail shop. Another shop similar to Climbaxe is Acmeclibing.com, they both specialize in euorpean gear. Acme carries alot of Lanex ropes (real good buy), Rock Empire harnesses and cams, Faders biners and check out the CM Quark "knock-offs" (Demon Pro)made by Raveltik out of Poland for $160

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: There is one also like that at the Yakima Firing Center. that one's more like a 32C maybe even a "B", however many large breasted "toothless wonders" can be found just south of Union Gap

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: The best gear is a fat green one and a Guinness Stout. All the rest is hemp rope and hobnails and it dont matter. I'll second that motion .....

I believe they are made by Rock Empire btw... Acme has a great deal on Lanex twin and half ropes ..... $156 of a pair of 7.8mm twins or $160 for a pair of 8.5mm half's .. both 60M [ 07-03-2002, 11:58 PM: Message edited by: wdietsch ]

quote: Originally posted by erik: and all cars in general. Hey erik, That big bad chevy of yours give'n you problems? ... Should have opted for the Ford ....

thru the years I have had (or still have) several types, MSR, Svea, Coleman, Bluet .... anyone have any experience with Markill stoves? In particular the Hot Rod Ti.

Leif-Norman Patterson Jim Madsen

Leigh Ortenburger Paul Petzolt

Alan Rouse?

quote: Originally posted by Greg W:

quote: Originally posted by Dru: Maybe they will rename it Peace Pipe and have a giant bowl on the Canadian side and mouth piece on the American side? and then paint it black as eric suggests, while serving "goats head soup" of course [ 06-07-2002, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: wdietsch ]

City of Rocks is great right now. I was there 3 weeks ago, had a blast with outstanding weather (actually a little cool in the mornings) and no crowds. Ditto on the points made above, you can chase the sun all day long and it will definaltely be getting hotter. Make sure you have at least 1 60m rope

I would love to join in on the fun however I am headed to Spokane this afternoon with a short side trip to Horsethief Butte for some boulderin'

Cleve Joiner - memeber of one of the rope teams climbing with his 14 year old son. Cleve was on a fourth rope team that DID NOT go into the "shrund" however his son was in the 3rd team rope team of 2 "having difficulty", rope team of 3 another rope team of 3 above the shrund ..... team of 2 "lost their footing" and took out the next two teams .. eight climbers total went in his son is okay

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_0529_news_mountain_rescue.65435ef.html 2 male German students from OSU along with a gal from Lebanon, OR and a female friend from Germany

pretty sad ..... 9 climbers total reported as falling into a crevase this morning about 9:30... 3 climbers confirmed dead, 4 critically injured, watching it live as I type on channel 8 out of PDX. The choppers are lifting people off the upper section of the "Hogsback"

some time back Viktor offered up free "preliminary" copies of his topo upon request. Drop him a PM

FYI ..... This may be old news, first I had heard about it so sorry if this is a repeat RAGE ICE TOOL RECALLED LIMITED TO 300 UNITS — MANUFACTURING ORDER 1149 Salt Lake City, Utah (April 12, 2002) - Black Diamond Equipment, Ltd. in cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC), voluntarily announced a recall of 300 Rage Ice Tools because of a limited increase in the potential for personal injury. This recall is due to two customer returns of the shaft breaking at the grip/shaft interface. The limited manufacturing run produced in May 2001 can be identified by the four digit date code 1149 stamped into the head of the ice tool. Tools not specifically exhibiting this date code are not being recalled – do not return tools without this date code. Returned product should have the hammer, pick, bolts, gasket and any leash removed before shipping. http://www.bdel.com/alpinism/icetools_rage_recall.html

Go North Fork of the Tieton if you want to head into the western portion of the "range" (Old Snowy, Ives, The Horns). If your object is Gilbert Curtis early June go in thru the South Fork and Surprise Lake. For "newbies" Surprise Lake makes a pleasant camp and Gilbert is a nice day trip. With longer days ahead a good method for Gilbert Curtis is leave trailhead early, hit Surprise, dump your overnight gear, take off with day pack and you can be back to camp by night fall. If your "newbies" are in good shape I would suggest camping above Surprise @ Warm Lake (more of a pond, but this time of year it will be covered by snow). Given all of this McCall Basin is a great camp however you loose out on the sunsets. If you like sunsets and are going for the west end consider staying high and going to Elk Pass