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Dustin B, I've had a Chernobyl 10 years, from the first year they came out commercially (no tubes, different compression system) ... it bin veady, veady gut to me .... great durability, bomber craftsmanship and materials. I have used for everything from a day ice climbing to 3-4 days trips. I plan on buying a Valdez soon for those day/minimal over nighters soon. I highly recommed them. Wes

quote: Originally posted by Lambone: [QB] Don't forget to wear your gaiters over your long underwear under your shorts...and bring many pickets!QB]

quote: Originally posted by texplorer: Did you forget about soloing? As far as leave no trace its even better than those unsightly TR anchors everywhere. as long as you make the dyno and don't crater

you might also consider Mountain Tools http://www.mtntools.com/cat/rclimb/cams/mt_camresling.htm

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: This is a good deal for a new tool US Dollars Tech wing 138$ http://www.sportextreme.com/pz315x312yUSD/ Why get a heavy ass axar or prophet I'd never buy em. Good deal .... it is a GREAT deal .... Dr. Doom and the boys in Salt Lake would rather you pay the US retail of $240 ....

craig ... the clip is fine ... think of it this way ... if he was to fall the rope has very little chance of crossing over the gate and unclipping

quote: Originally posted by Cpt.Caveman: That is a great option nobody has mentioned. I do not know if it is any quicker. Somebody besides myself and another climb Toketie Wall or what? It's stellar granite to 3 musketeers ridge and larger than Snow Creek Wall. Check it out ssshh, not too loud .....

quote: Originally posted by Muffy The Wanker Sprayer: long slings are good. Yet I personaly, as an aspiring professinal follower, find it dificult to rack them, espaecialy when cleaning from a sketchy intermidiat move 'cause the leader is 6'2" and placed higher on a stance than I can reach yes yes lame newbie question... but it's hard and I woulde love sugestions again, long slings are good look at "rabbit runners" ... racked over your shoulder with a biner already attached .... clip sling into cam biner, rope into sling biner, lots of options for adjusting length .... re-rack per Iain's suggestion

to Caveman and Greg W's point it all depends on the objective ... as far as "better" my preferance pretty much always leans toward Colchuck/Aasgard ..... cause I really dig the views of all the North Faces

my first trip into the Enchantments was thru Snow & Nada, we returned to the trailhead only to learn that Elvis had died .... ever since I've always gone thru Aasgard

I was doing some research on the Bugs' for a trip next year and happened upon this article. Personally I agree with the majority of the responses in this thread and frankly have little desire to run in and out of the mountains as fast as I can just for the fuck of it. Although I enjoy pushing myself to be a better/faster/more efficient climber, I also like to stop and smell the roses.... "Mark Kroese and Hans Florine climbed six of Steck and Ropers 50 classics in a eight days. " http://speedclimb.com/9in9/

what does a bad ass like Issac consider "Fun+"? .... M8?

ice trolls .... gotta love it

quote: Originally posted by sisu suomi: I am ready for ice season and the gear is getting out and sharpened. I'll second that motion

dbconlin .... speaking as a CCW Chernobyl owner, attaching a full size pad is no problem. The pack has 4 daisys which provide plenty of options. I usually carry my pad oriented vertically to keep a narrow profile. One can also stuff a pad under the extendable lid. As far as sleeping in it, works just fine for me, done it many times. I am 6' and the bivi skirt hits me right about the waist when not wearing my boots. Used with a hip length parka your good, or should I say as good as you can get with a setup like this. I have one of the older style units which has trad tool loops instead of tubes and a different compression system which has since been improved. The pad that came with my unit is very narrow and folds our lengthwise. I think the Alpine Attack tri-fold pad is more functional but hey, "that which does not kill me only makes me stronger" right? Durability has been super. Mine has been dropped, kicked, hauled and drowned ... still going strong with only a couple small holes after about 10 years. For what it was designed for I have few complaints although a higher density foam in the shoulder straps would be a good place to start.

Thanks for the feedback ..... Not being totally up on all the brands and models, what else is out there, other than the Arc'Teryx Gamma MX Hoody, Cloudveil IceFloe and the Patagonia Dimension and Essenshell, that have a hood? [ 09-17-2002, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: wdietsch ]

considering a soft shell (finally) jacket, wondering what everyone out there thinks .. what do you like and why?

Ryland ... congrates

quote: Originally posted by Necronomicon: The first team of two, or person, to complete these three routes in the alotted time frame will receive 1 case each (that's 24 beers where I come from) of Corona, six fresh limes, and a T-Shirt declaring them the Winner. Corona and limes? Come on you got to do better than that!

Another nice thing about this type of design (a trick I learned years ago with a Timberline) is to just use the fly and the poles for a nice 2+ bivy shelter sans floor

Lucky .... you might check with Norm Ried @ Gymnastics Plus and Matt Christensen if he is still in the area (Yakima). Years ago I remember there being some info on Windy Point but it never really got much attention, we were all too busy with the Columns, Moon Rocks, the Bend, Wildcat Creek, Rainbow Rocks, the Palisades, etc, etc...... and as you have mentioned very dirty from lack of attention due mostly to the shortness of the routes

CCW Chernobyl this is about the best price you will find on them http://www.backcountry-equipment.com/backpack/b-cold_cold_world/chernobyl/chernobyl.html

qb] At the lower saddle in the Tetons --now that the shitter-with-a-view has been removed-- I predict that people will more often leave their shit rather than carry it out in the Reststop2 bags.[/QB] I certainly hope not. I was there last week and had no problem using the reststop2 unit. On the same platform as the "normal" shitter the rangers have a stool similar to what you would find in an out house with a toliet seat mounted to it. Taking the reststop2 and fastening the unit like you would a standard garbage bag into a garbage can, rolling the end of the bag around the lip of the toliet seat and pulling on the draw strings, works well. When finished seal it up and pack it out. I found this to be much "cleaner" than the blue bag routine, and as the ranger will point out they can be used more than once, unless of course you are Trask and live on horsecock, CheezWhiz and Stout(messy). Personally I think they should do away with the crappers @ the lower saddle permanantly and instate a system such as this for good. The reststop2 is currently mandatory at the lower saddle and optional at all lower camps. Personally I feel hikers and climbers in the lower sites should adapate this or a similar system as well. The waste problems will only continue to grow unless we are proactive as a "community" to offset it. ps ... last week the weather was awesome and the view from the "stool", although a bit "airy" is very cool

quote: Originally posted by alienPDX: help me avoid the crowds over Labor Day! Avoiding Crowds, even in the Goat Rocks, on Labor Day weekend will be difficlut. I would suggest not going to Suprise Lake, Snowgrass Flats or McCall Basin. McCall Basin actuallly might not be too bad if you are the first ones there and grab the big main camping spot. It does put you in a nice position to hike up Old Snowy and Ives both easily done together in a day. The basin also has good access to water. I would go in Thursday night or VERY early Friday morning in order to get their first. Coming in from the east Warm Lake or the area immediately north of the Meade Glacier moraine are great places to camp, off the beaten path with easy scrambling up Curtis Gilbert, but you will definately be putting up with people and horses (and cows in Conrad Meadows) during the hike in and out. And then there is also the high traverse from Bear Creek thru the Devils Horns .....If you want more beta send me a PM Wes

any update as to the location?