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quote: Originally posted by erik: i dont know what your jibberish means chuck, but ill go to your bar.....closer then jerkland....... unless i be at index on tuesday....bone....bone....bone....you hear that.....then i guess jerkland is on the way home........ That jibberish was my attempt to make a mapquest clickable URL thingy. Guess it didn't work. I'm not trying to split the pub club. I'll go with the overwhelming consensus, should we be so fortunate to have one. I was nominating a possible venue. Parking sux at Coopers, but it's easy to get to from the Freeway (well, if you're coming from the South anyway). It might be a shade small for the growing PC. Hey Rodeo, is Lucky 7 a big place? That Park Pub is pretty sweet in that it has $2.50 pints on Tuesdays! That elimates the tab-ditcher problems.

quote: Originally posted by offwidthclimber: dude, you ALL know the real reason for the endorsement is because Viesturs wants to hook up super phatty computer shit so he can quit climbing and spend all his time here becoming a master cascade SPRAYER! Who do you think schlangeschmecker is?

Erik you are not nice!! I think the Pub Club should be somewhere that has darts.

Hey you guys out there (Mattp!) that use a Petzl Reverso to belay two seconds simultaneously. Appears Petzl has identified a dangerous situation that could occur. This link might be useful information for you and/or the people you belay. http://petzl.devcross.com/petzl/rubrique?idi=sport

Yeah so what. Who made you king?

Cooper's Alehouse. 8065 Lake City Way North East, Seattle. 206) 522-2923 See you there NEXT TIME? [ 04-08-2002: Message edited by: chucK ]

That would be a good trick to place a BigBro in the middle of a lieback.

I left a #4 BigBro at the base of the Mace in Arizona and wished I hadn't. The #1 weighs half that of comparably sized cam.

Oh well, guess you don't have it . It's on the same CD as the arson one you posted. It's a story of this guy causing all sorts of mayhem wrecking his car and stuff.

Hey Greg, Post the humourous one about the guy having the bad night.

Picture from 4/2/02 7:30 am. See http://www.fs.fed.us/r6/wenatchee/misc/snowcreek.html If Slaphappy is who I think he is, then he would know. Ask him.

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quote: Originally posted by mattp: Stock seems to be a recurrent problem. I will echo Matt and just about every poster to this thread on this one. I can see where a small place would not want to have a whole bunch of inventory eating into their available cash and space, but REI?? Knowledgeable sales staff would be a plus, but more important to me is to have helpful sales staff. REI salespeople have mostly tried to be helpful to me even when they didn't know what they were talking about I have found the salespeople to be all over the board. A few were VERY helpful above and beyond the call of duty, doing stuff like emailing me when something came in stock. The majority are clueless but cordial, and at least knew how to work the cash register. A few were surly clueless idiots who couldn't even work the cash register much less know anything about the stuff they seemed to be guarding rather than selling. So, par for the course I guess, not better but not worse than your everyday retail place. However, nowhere close to the kind of service you can get at FEATHERED FRIENDS or PRO MOUNTAIN SPORTS The biggest beef with the help at REI is the usual non-availability of it anytime there are more than 4 customers in the store. But that is not a problem isolated to the climbing dept. Even though I have not attended any, I think it's cool the way REI has those free slideshows and seminars and stuff. Here's my pet peeve with the selection in the climbing deptartment. It is a minor peeve but is probably the only criticism I have that is constructive (i.e. one that could be easily fixed). Whenever I go in there to get a supply of nylon webbing. They have one (if that) spool of earthtone/camoflauge webbing, and multiple spools of purple, red, and neon yellow webbing. Couldn't it be done the other way? Do the crags a favor. Get multiple spools of green, brown, black, or gray stuff and KEEP IT IN STOCK.

...and when they opened up her hand,they found a snail inside. OOOPS, I messed up the lyrics. Here are the correct ones. Someone saw a strange amountOf moisture on her lipsAnd it was also seen uponHer arms and on her hips No one knows exactlyWho she was or how she diedBut when they opened up her purseThey found a snail inside [ 04-03-2002: Message edited by: chucK ]

Aha! We find out the real reason you gotta hide yer name! You're a wanted man

Coulda been Cavem...err Ray or Adamson or Colin though!! I egg, but I wouldn't of egged in the Icicle.

That's Summit Chief Mountain. I don't think that buttress is in the old Brown Beckey. I haven't bought the new Brown yet. We walked underneath that thing going to Chimney Rock a few years back. It looked impressive but there was a very big red (=rotten?) talus cone at the base. Here's picture of it this winter I found on tom unger's page. I'm just posting a link since the picture is big!http://www.tumtum.com/gallery/images/skiing/BigSnow02/BigSnow02_42.jpgSummit Chief is just right and above Glide's head. That buttress is probably right in the middle of the face from this angle.

Yeah Jeez, I feel childish as shit. What am I, like 13 or something? That "crag" picture I posted is Big Snow Mtn. It's a pretty good walk there now, but you better hurry to do it, cause if those f**kers get their way, it's gonna be a lot further in after they gate the Middle Fork Sno road. I got an announcement the other day that the environmental assessment report will be out soon. You have to reply that you "really really want it" for them to keep you on the mailing list. Does that mean they skipped the usual period where they put out 5 plans from do nothing to close the entire forest with their preferred plan right in the middle, then have a comment period? I hope not. Just in case, give Doug Schrenk a call (425)888-1421 ext 233 and tell him you want to keep access open to the end of Middle Fork Snoq road and Big Snow Mountain, Burnboot, Hinman, Bears Breast, Little Big Chief, Summit Chief, Chimney Rock, and Overcoat. LB Chief, Summit Chief, Chimney Rock, Overcoat [ 04-02-2002: Message edited by: chucK ]

Loren, Nice post. I appreciate your restrained tone respecting the way this thread was started. I don't want to say the Mounties are all well and good and "carry on", but I think some of your beefs are a bit simplistic. I have learned from having kids that it's very easy to look at how other people run their herds and think they are not doing it right. Once you have to do it yourself, you see it is not as easy to be perfect. Like kids, the mountie students and leaders are not telepathically connected to one brain. It's difficult to simultaneously get all of them doing the right thing at the right time. I guess you could try to add more[\I] regimentation to their regime, but the already over-regimented nature of the mounties is probably the most common gripe about them here on the board. Unless you actually deny them the right to go out into the mountains, I think you have to give a big untrained group a bit more slack/leeway than smaller teams who have been climbing together for a long time. I totally agree with what you say about bigger groups causing disproportionate havoc. But like Steve wrote, the mountie climbs aren't really as big as the myth would have you believe. Still, a group of 6 (with 1-2 skilled, 1-2 semi-skilled and 3 unskilled) might be a bit too big. Limiting basic rock trips to 4 people would probably help a lot. The beef about blind leading the blind in the Mountaineers is right on. The mountaineers should be even more regimented/restrictive about who they have instructing and keeping safe their mostly unqualified students. And to nitpick your beef about Lundin: quote: Originally posted by CascadeClimber:I personally disagree with the installations on Lundin Peak. I display proof, digital proof, that those installations are a product of the WAC BTW, those bolts up there are crazy. When one of them goes, which doesn't seem too unlikely, it's probably gonna be in the hand of some poor sap plummeting down the north face.

quote: Originally posted by Ropegun2002: What I find very interesting is that this kind of action (stealing anchors/hangers/slings)is so prevalant at Vantage. No one is doing this kind of thing at Index, Little Si, Smith, Sqaumish, Skaha, Darrington. At Vantage you can walk, perhaps crawl, right to the top of the violated blot lines. I don't find it surprising that it happened here and nowhere else. Plus I think it happens at these other places too (Index had a chopping incident just last year, Exit 38 had easy-to-reach hangers stolen not too long ago). Add in the fact that some optimists are not resigned to writing off Vantage to be trashed like Smith and you got a recipe for hanger-thievin' disaster.

Hey! Check out this prose about the Neutrinos on the BD website "Lighten the load with the 36 gram Neutrino and set yourself free." ...same weight as those biners Ray is talking about by the way

quote: Originally posted by Bronco: I'll lead battered sandwich when you lead that bolted arete next to it in your pink tights and halter top Battered Sandwich rules. You'll like it Bronco. Good pro. Improbable moves. When you're done with BS do Magic Fern. That one can be painful if you're sketching. So I wonder if the name means a sandwich that got trashed or a sandwich that was dipped in eggs and flour and fried 'n shit? Mmmmmm battered sandwich...] [ 03-29-2002: Message not edited by: Erik ] [ 03-29-2002: Message edited by: chucK ]

quote: Originally posted by gregm: don't forget to clean up. Hey Allison! How's that for witty banter! I'm doing this all for you baby.

quote: Originally posted by Crackhead: How about snow creek wall?????????? There it is dude March 29 7:00am Looks dry. Go for it.